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Old 06-08-2004 | 12:04 PM
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So...I was searching around the net for a new bike and happened across a mint 600RR. I emailed seller and this is what I got:

Dum de dum


Hello Son ,

Ok thanks for you quick email !
Yes 2004 Honda CBR 600RR is still for sale.
The bike is new,in perfect condition ,no scratches,no damage,never been laid down or required any repairs. The price i am looking for my Honda is $4000 including the shipping costs,insurance and handling.
The bike is located in UK ,I moved from US three months ago ,now i live in UK with my family,we moved here because my wife is from UK and we choose London as a place to live..hope that won't be a problem for our transaction because the delivery will be made via DAS SERVICE and in max 5 days you will receive the bike to your address.The motorcycle will come to you with all the documents that you need including the title(clear).
I took the bike with me thinking to register here,but when i saw how big registration
taxes are here,i decided that is better to sell it within USA space,is even cheaper
for me to deliver it in USA than to register here.The price includes all shipping taxes to your address ,like i said this is the reason that i want to sell the bike,plus that i just bought a house and i have other priorities right now.
For payment I accept ESCROW SERVICE(www.betterbusinessupport.com) in this way both of us will have the assurance that we need.
By dealing with a third party means dealing with a neutral party, a company that verifies if the merchandise is sent and corresponds to what seller agreed with the buyer and release the money only after the merchandise was accepted. I deal a lot like that.
All you have to do is to register with www.betterbusinessupport.com
E-mail me ASAP to complete our transaction.

Kinds Regards!



Son Huynh <pride_wong@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Hiya. I know you stated that the bike is in great
condition, but do you mind me asking you why only
3600?

-Son

If there are no problems with the bike, I'm interested
in it. What forms of payment work for you? And where
is this bike located. Thanks.


-I was kinda apphrensive so I looked up www.betterbusinessupport.com at the BBB and didnt find records. You guys think it's fake?

~Son
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:12 PM
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SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM -

RUN SCREAMING!

Look at the "escrow service's" domain name - probably only has existed for a few weeks - fake escrow is the new scam-o-the-week. I'll check it later if someone doesn't beat me to it.

-JD
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:14 PM
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A good basic rule of thumb is "if it looks too good to be true it probably is.."

Now if the guy was in the States you could fly out and do the deal face to face (same as I did with Akachan).

It may be true.. do your due diligence and above all BECAREFUL!
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:19 PM
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scam.
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:20 PM
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Damn scammers. Thanks guys. It all seemed fine and dandy until he mentioned that he's overseas. *sigh*

-Son
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:22 PM
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This whole "ship the car / bike / laptop / nuclear missle from the UK" thing is big right now. Total scam.
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:26 PM
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I get nothing when I try to go to that website. I get redirected to some website that helps you build a business website or something. I googled the business site as well and nothing comes up for e-escrow company under that name.

I would ask him to agree to another escrow company that is legit and well known. Otherwise, tell him to take a hike.
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:33 PM
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UNless your in the market for a powerbook, dont even buy into it. Check the forsale forum for Revillusions(?) thread on "My car is not for sale!!" His car was listed for sale in FL and the UK, yet he isnt selling it. They also have the powerbook story on it too.
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:50 PM
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OK, got a few minutes so I went to http://www.betterwhois.com/ and looked up the domain registration. Although the betterbusinessupport.com website claims to have been in business since 2001, the domain was first registered ONLY (7) weeks ago, and they ONLY paid for (1) year of registration (most companies pay for a decade or so to make sure they don't lose the trade name), which means it isn't an established Escrow service and they aren't looking to hold onto it for very long.

For Fun, ask the seller how long he has been using the escrow company - and when he tells you years then ask how this is possible when it was only registered 7 weeks ago?

They claim to be in the UK, but it is hosted out of Monterey Park - so it is a LOCAL scammer!

Anyhow, Escrow service is the new sucker ploy. You get a great deal, and they point you to a well crafted website that LOOKs real and often sprinkled with "awards" - but it as fake as hell. This is not one of the better ones I have seen... but it will do for fooling people.

-JD

Whois output:
================================================== =====

Domain Name: BETTERBUSINESSUPPORT.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS2.POWWEB.COM
Name Server: NS3.POWWEB.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 19-apr-2004
Creation Date: 19-apr-2004
Expiration Date: 19-apr-2005
NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the
registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is
currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.


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[whois.opensrs.net]
Registrant:
N/A
14 Dymond Grove, Grassmoor
Chesterfield, Derbyshire S425YE
GB

Domain name: BETTERBUSINESSUPPORT.COM

Administrative Contact:
Haslehurst, Sheila k01mmm@yahoo.com
14 Dymond Grove, Grassmoor
Chesterfield, Derbyshire S425YE
GB
01246851148
Technical Contact:
Admin, Powweb sysadmin@powweb.com
2168 S. Atlantic Blvd.
#232
Monterey Park, CA 91754
US
+1.3102788926 Fax: +1.3102785401



Registration Service Provider:
PowWeb, Inc., hostmaster@powweb.com
310-278-8926
http://powweb.com
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 19-Apr-2004.
Record expires on 19-Apr-2005.
Record created on 19-Apr-2004.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.POWWEB.COM 66.152.97.3
NS2.POWWEB.COM 66.152.97.4
Old 06-08-2004 | 12:55 PM
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Someone wanna make a powerbook 2 sale? Lts do this and screw with him!!!


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