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Old 06-13-2011, 03:39 PM
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President Felipe Calderon of Mexico delivered the 2011 commencement address before 30,000 people at Stanford University on Sunday. The event made headlines in Mexico after an unidentified airplane carried a banner over Stanford Stadium during the president's speech with a protest message directed at Mexico's drug war.

"40,000 DEAD!" the banner read. "HOW MANY MORE?"

In a video that Calderon's office released of the speech, the sound of a light aircraft is heard at about the 15-minute mark into the 18-minute address, which Calderon delivered in English.

The president appears either to ignore or not notice the plane with a few quick glances he makes toward the sky, the video shows. Here's an amateur YouTube clip showing the airplane flying over the stadium. Several amateur photos of the plane and banner also quickly popped up on Twitter.

The banner was marked with the logo of an antiwar group in Mexico known as "No más sangre," or, "No more blood." Yet as of Monday, no one had come forward claiming responsibility for the intrusion on Stanford's commencement, and a spokeswoman for the group in Mexico City said they were not involved.
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Originally Posted by herrjr
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lapl...0000-more.html

President Felipe Calderon of Mexico delivered the 2011 commencement address before 30,000 people at Stanford University on Sunday. The event made headlines in Mexico after an unidentified airplane carried a banner over Stanford Stadium during the president's speech with a protest message directed at Mexico's drug war.

"40,000 DEAD!" the banner read. "HOW MANY MORE?"

In a video that Calderon's office released of the speech, the sound of a light aircraft is heard at about the 15-minute mark into the 18-minute address, which Calderon delivered in English.

The president appears either to ignore or not notice the plane with a few quick glances he makes toward the sky, the video shows. Here's an amateur YouTube clip showing the airplane flying over the stadium. Several amateur photos of the plane and banner also quickly popped up on Twitter.

The banner was marked with the logo of an antiwar group in Mexico known as "No más sangre," or, "No more blood." Yet as of Monday, no one had come forward claiming responsibility for the intrusion on Stanford's commencement, and a spokeswoman for the group in Mexico City said they were not involved.
Just wow.
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Originally Posted by herrjr
The banner was marked with the logo of an antiwar group in Mexico known as "No más sangre," or, "No more blood." Yet as of Monday, no one had come forward claiming responsibility for the intrusion on Stanford's commencement, and a spokeswoman for the group in Mexico City said they were not involved.
Because nobody wants to die. Them Mexican cartels don't mess around.

There will probably one cartel left. El Chapo Guzman. He is the last of all the old original mafia families and is folk hero. Supposedly his solders don't kidnap and kill innocent people. Well not under his direct orders. He is the biggest, most powerful and wealthiest cartel leader. Look him up on Forbes billionaire list. El Chapo is also allegedly related to..................the president of Mexico..do the math. Most the violence will end once he is in complete control.
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^ Yea I've read up on him, he's a bit more like the Italian old skool mobsters back in the day. Lives by some rules and has boundaries. Still a criminal though but if we have to choose I suppose it to be the lesser of two evils. Typical for elections of presidents too.
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2k
^ Yea I've read up on him, he's a bit more like the Italian old skool mobsters back in the day. Lives by some rules and has boundaries. Still a criminal though but if we have to choose I suppose it to be the lesser of two evils. Typical for elections of presidents too.
Lesser of 7 evils.
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^ or that.
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Originally Posted by chairmnofthboard
There will probably one cartel left. El Chapo Guzman. He is the last of all the old original mafia families and is folk hero. Supposedly his solders don't kidnap and kill innocent people. Well not under his direct orders. He is the biggest, most powerful and wealthiest cartel leader. Look him up on Forbes billionaire list. El Chapo is also allegedly related to..................the president of Mexico..do the math. Most the violence will end once he is in complete control.

Likely. I don't remember these issues when Fox was the president there. And they certainly didn't have nonsense like this:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun...eries-20110602
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not another thread that some how got turn into an "Illegal" thread




but well, greg..... hmmm drugs don't hurt people....
okay well lets say your 6 or 7 yr old son or daughter starts smoking weed or what about crack, cocain, meth, pcp, heroin, opium, ect
yeah noone has ever OD on those. YUp less harmless and damage then illegals....


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Originally Posted by chairmnofthboard
Because nobody wants to die. Them Mexican cartels don't mess around.
Forgot to add this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...ALH_story.html

For the drug cartel boss who has everything, the latest piece of military hardware is the “narco tank.”

Today’s competitive crime mafias in Mexico are no longer satisfied with bazookas, rocket-propelled grenades or land mines. The Mexican military has discovered that gangsters south of Texas are building armored assault vehicles, with gun turrets, inch-thick armor plates, firing ports and bulletproof glass.

More than 35,000 Mexicans have died in four years of drug violence, and the fighting between the rival Gulf and Zeta cartels, and with the military units that chase them, has been especially vicious in the border cities and farm towns of the northern state of Tamaulipas. Just two days ago, two mutilated bodies were left hanging from a pedestrian bridge in Monterrey.

“Organized crime has increased its firepower to move personnel and mount counterattacks against the army,” said Alberto Islas, a security adviser in Mexico. “This is the consolidation of an urban guerrilla war scenario.”

The Mexican media and military call the assault vehicles “monstruos,” monster trucks. In Mexico, their appearance on the Internet has gone viral. On the front page of Reforma, a national daily newspaper, a photograph Monday of a monster truck was accompanied by the headline: “And this doesn’t look like a war?”

The Mexican army announced Sunday night that a military convoy on routine patrol raided a warehouse in Camargo, Tamaulipas, across the border from Rio Grande City, Tex., and seized two dump trucks that had been rigged with steel plates to protect gunmen.

The monsters look like a cross between a handmade assault vehicle used by a Somali warlord and something out of a post-apocalyptic “Mad Max” movie. Complete with battering rams.

The assault vehicles have appeared in several confrontations with Mexican authorities. In the western state of Jalisco, soldiers confronted one of the beasts in May and disabled it by shooting out its tires. The trucks have not been seen in the cities and remain mostly a chilling curiosity.

The popular and lurid “narco blog” Web site said the armored truck could do 60 mph and dump — James Bond style — tire-popping nails or oil slicks to slow down its pursuers.

“These behemoths indicate the ingenuity of the cartels in configuring weapons that are extremely effective in urban warfare,” said George Grayson, a professor at the College of William and Mary and a specialist in Mexico’s drug war.

The cartels are locked in a kind of arms race involving technology and techniques to keep one step ahead of authorities — and one another.

Last year authorities found an elaborate tunnel stretching more than 2,200 feet, complete with train tracks and ventilation, that was used to move marijuana between a house in the Mexican city of Tijuana and a warehouse in Otay Mesa, Calif.

On the high seas, maritime forces have intercepted dozens of “narco-submarines” hauling multi-ton loads of cocaine north. The semi-submersibles travel very low in the water to avoid detection.

With growing frequency, U.S. guards have spotted ultralight aircraft barnstorming over the border fences to drop 200-pound loads of pot in fields for waiting pickup trucks that flash their high beams or create a makeshift drop zone out of light sticks. According to U.S. officials, there have been more than 300 ultralight incursions into the United States in the past 18 months.

U.S. and Mexican border agents have found ramps, tunnels, and even a catapult that was used to lob drugs over the border fence between Mexico and Arizona.

Narco tanks might look odd, but they are further proof of a serious and deadly arms race among cartels.

Mexican soldiers last week discovered a major arsenal of weapons and ammunition in an underground bunker, probably buried by the Zeta crime organization.

The cache of 150 rifles, pistols and shotguns, 92,000 rounds of ammunition, four mortar shells and two rocket-propelled grenades was discovered at a ranch in the northern state of Coahuila, which borders the United States.
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Originally Posted by cvjoint
We're all illegals to some extent. Maybe we should all go back to fatherlands and get this country back to whatever indians are still left.

The only difference between us and those that are still trying to make it over the boarder is that OUR group is in power. Survivial is about power. Citizens are part of the IN group so they share power. The only thing that keeps us part of the IN group is some paperwork.
Haha, I remember this guy I met who's native american was told by a angry anti-immegration protester to go back to your country (must of assumed all brown people are mexican) and he told her I am, I'm a red blooded Native American. lol she was speechless and embarassed and turn around
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