Chris Laurie drives fast/solo in carpool lane
#151
From the MinistryWatch crony website:
"The system measures financial efficiency, and that’s all. Anyone who looks at the 5 Star Ratings should know both what they are and what they are not. First of all, let’s talk about what they are not.
The 5 Star Financial Efficiency Ratings do not provide a measure of integrity, stewardship, transparency, program effectiveness, or financial strength. These are noble goals for any ministry, but ..."
"The system measures financial efficiency, and that’s all. Anyone who looks at the 5 Star Ratings should know both what they are and what they are not. First of all, let’s talk about what they are not.
The 5 Star Financial Efficiency Ratings do not provide a measure of integrity, stewardship, transparency, program effectiveness, or financial strength. These are noble goals for any ministry, but ..."
#152
Originally Posted by Bert05GPW,Jul 29 2008, 08:43 PM
Brave? Just as a point of reference, does anyone here recall how much money Chuck gave Greg to get him out of Calvary? I do.
#155
Originally Posted by Nicotunes,Jul 29 2008, 09:18 PM
And if you choose to give an e-gift each month automatically through EFT at the $50, $100, or $250 level, you also become eligble to receive additional resources as a thank you from us at Harvest Ministries.
We make it easy for you to send CASH. Cha-ching! Good lordie, look at their web site--there are more clicks to donate cash than words about religion. VeriSign Approved!!!!!
#156
$250 monthly e-gift (using EFT)
With your monthly gift of $250.00 through Electronic Funds Transfer, you'll become a Harvest Partner at the Emerald level and be eligible to receive the following benefits.
Click here to support Harvest Outreach at the Emerald level.
Emerald Level Benefits
Apple iPod Nano 4GB metallic green
10 hours worth of Pastor Greg's messages on CD (in mp3 format)
A green Nano? Green like MONEY? The highest level donors get mean green Nanos. Sweet. You can't make up this stuff folks.
With your monthly gift of $250.00 through Electronic Funds Transfer, you'll become a Harvest Partner at the Emerald level and be eligible to receive the following benefits.
Click here to support Harvest Outreach at the Emerald level.
Emerald Level Benefits
Apple iPod Nano 4GB metallic green
10 hours worth of Pastor Greg's messages on CD (in mp3 format)
A green Nano? Green like MONEY? The highest level donors get mean green Nanos. Sweet. You can't make up this stuff folks.
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Actually, I'm a member of Saddleback, FWIW....
I'm also a big fan of Chuck Smith, who is an awesome
teacher.. Maranatha Village FTW (most of you are too
young to know about this...)
RicePatrol:
If this is not starting fires, you must speak a different language than
I. It's clearly intentionally provocative and an offensive stance;
you claim the church to be basically a thief and a fraud. My response
of you don't know what you're talking about and should shut up, is far
from my blood boiling "at work"(?) or causing me heart attacks. Your
method of discourse seems to be one of attack and assume. Suit
yourself.
Everyone seems quick to rant about random unrelated events and
nobody has responded logically or fairly to any of the claims I've
made. Have fun patting each other on the back and slamming OC's
great Christian leaders rather than showing some respect to a young
mother who lost her husband four months before her second baby
is to be born. Your lack of empathy makes me sad.
I'm done here.
I'm also a big fan of Chuck Smith, who is an awesome
teacher.. Maranatha Village FTW (most of you are too
young to know about this...)
RicePatrol:
Originally Posted by ricepatrol78
i want to say about this situation. They live in orange county richly and luxuriously while their church is mainly poor people in riverside... They take the money from the poor and pocket it to their rich selves...
I ask would they still run the church if it didn't pay the way it did. I'd say no!
I ask would they still run the church if it didn't pay the way it did. I'd say no!
I. It's clearly intentionally provocative and an offensive stance;
you claim the church to be basically a thief and a fraud. My response
of you don't know what you're talking about and should shut up, is far
from my blood boiling "at work"(?) or causing me heart attacks. Your
method of discourse seems to be one of attack and assume. Suit
yourself.
Everyone seems quick to rant about random unrelated events and
nobody has responded logically or fairly to any of the claims I've
made. Have fun patting each other on the back and slamming OC's
great Christian leaders rather than showing some respect to a young
mother who lost her husband four months before her second baby
is to be born. Your lack of empathy makes me sad.
I'm done here.
#159
Originally Posted by ladius,Jul 29 2008, 10:37 PM
man, for someone who seems to really dislike Harvest, Greg Laurie and Chris Laurie, you sure devote a lot of time to this.
I'm simply thankful that azzclown c. laurie is off the road and no one got hurt in the process. His driving history is public record and speaks for itself. He was a son of privilege and drove like it.
I don't dislike Greg, Creflo, Chuck, or Rick--they are fabulous money-collecting machines--and it makes me a wee bit jealous and wonder why Greg doesn't take personal responsibility for taking care of the son's family.
#160
Originally Posted by Bert05GPW,Jul 30 2008, 07:05 AM
I'm simply thankful that azzclown c. laurie is off the road and no one got hurt in the process. His driving history is public record and speaks for itself. He was a son of privilege and drove like it.
I don't dislike Greg, Creflo, Chuck, or Rick--they are fabulous money-collecting machines--and it makes me a wee bit jealous and wonder why Greg doesn't take personal responsibility for taking care of the son's family.