Another Vicitm of Profiling by the Cops
#11
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Originally Posted by mrjulius,Sep 30 2009, 02:21 PM
How is this profiling by the police? You have a modified exhaust, something that is illegal...
An exhaust modified TO BE LOUDER is illegal. In other words they don't want people having a "who is the loudest" competition. From here it's gotten tighter and tighter. db is all that matters really.
EDIT>>> Guess that's been said already.
Still.... it's profiling but... I mean you did draw attention to yourself with exhaust and gave a reason to be messed with.
#12
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the pig that give me the ticket told me i can sign it off at the department too, evidently these pigs don't know shit, they just give out tickets to whatever doesnt look stock to them
#13
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^ THAT is the problem.
If he thinks you can just get it signed off why is he writing it?
They should deduct the $25 from their pay when they don't use a db meter and are wrong.
If he thinks you can just get it signed off why is he writing it?
They should deduct the $25 from their pay when they don't use a db meter and are wrong.
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luckily, the ticket itself no long really bothers me, but just the idea that i had really done "nothing" to deserve the ticket. My car came with the exhaust, and I never thought about swapping to a stock exhaust...because who reallllly does that ??
soo, if i take it to a sheriff's dept OR state ref for a dB test, I can get signed off?
I really have no experience with getting pulled over for "modifications" before since my car is pretty stock and doesnt tend to attract attention.
soo, if i take it to a sheriff's dept OR state ref for a dB test, I can get signed off?
I really have no experience with getting pulled over for "modifications" before since my car is pretty stock and doesnt tend to attract attention.
#15
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Originally Posted by 05TurboS2k,Sep 30 2009, 02:42 PM
Modified exhaust is NOT illegal.
An exhaust modified TO BE LOUDER is illegal. In other words they don't want people having a "who is the loudest" competition. From here it's gotten tighter and tighter. db is all that matters really.
EDIT>>> Guess that's been said already.
Still.... it's profiling but... I mean you did draw attention to yourself with exhaust and gave a reason to be messed with.
An exhaust modified TO BE LOUDER is illegal. In other words they don't want people having a "who is the loudest" competition. From here it's gotten tighter and tighter. db is all that matters really.
EDIT>>> Guess that's been said already.
Still.... it's profiling but... I mean you did draw attention to yourself with exhaust and gave a reason to be messed with.
A violation of this section is a misdemeanor.
Amended Sec. 3, Ch. 92, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.
Amended Sec. 2, Ch. 569, Stats. 2002. Effective January 1, 2003.
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27150.2. (a) Stations providing referee functions pursuant to Section 44036 of the Health and Safety Code shall provide for the testing of vehicular exhaust systems and the issuance of certificates of compliance only for those vehicles that have received a citation for a violation of Section 27150 or 27151.
(b) A certificate of compliance for a vehicular exhaust system shall be issued pursuant to subdivision (a) if the vehicle complies with Sections 27150 and 27151. Exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles, other than motorcycles, with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds comply with Sections 27150 and 27151 if they emit no more than 95 dbA when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998.
(b) A certificate of compliance for a vehicular exhaust system shall be issued pursuant to subdivision (a) if the vehicle complies with Sections 27150 and 27151. Exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles, other than motorcycles, with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds comply with Sections 27150 and 27151 if they emit no more than 95 dbA when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998.
#17
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27150.5. Any person holding a retail seller’s permit who sells or installs an exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not limited to, a muffler, in violation of Section 27150.1 or 27150.2 or the regulations adopted pursuant thereto, shall thereafter be required to install an exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not limited to, a muffler, which is in compliance with such regulations upon demand of the purchaser or registered owner of the vehicle concerned, or to reimburse the purchaser or registered owner for the expense of replacement and installation of an exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not limited to, a muffler, which is in compliance, at the election of such purchaser or registered owner.
Added Ch. 1769, Stats. 1971. Operative May 3, 1972.
Added Ch. 1769, Stats. 1971. Operative May 3, 1972.
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27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
Amended Sec. 10, Ch. 92, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
Amended Sec. 10, Ch. 92, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.
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27153.5. (a) No motor vehicle first sold or registered as a new motor vehicle on or after January 1, 1971, shall discharge into the atmosphere at elevation of less than 4,000 feet any air contaminant for a period of more than 10 seconds which is:
(1) As dark or darker in shade as that designated as No. 1 on the Ringelmann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau of Mines, or
(2) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a degree equal to or greater than does smoke described in paragraph (1) of this subdivision.
(b) No motor vehicle first sold or registered prior to January 1, 1971, shall discharge into the atmosphere at elevation of less than 4,000 feet any air contaminant for a period of more than 10 seconds which is:
(1) As dark or darker in shade than that designated as No. 2 on the Ringelmann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau of Mines, or
(2) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a degree equal to or greater than does smoke described in paragraph (1) of this subdivision.
(1) As dark or darker in shade as that designated as No. 1 on the Ringelmann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau of Mines, or
(2) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a degree equal to or greater than does smoke described in paragraph (1) of this subdivision.
(b) No motor vehicle first sold or registered prior to January 1, 1971, shall discharge into the atmosphere at elevation of less than 4,000 feet any air contaminant for a period of more than 10 seconds which is:
(1) As dark or darker in shade than that designated as No. 2 on the Ringelmann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau of Mines, or
(2) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a degree equal to or greater than does smoke described in paragraph (1) of this subdivision.