What do you guys run for tires around here?
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Good luck with making the conits last if you push your car at all in the dry. I guess thats what happens when you combine an all season compound with sidewalls made of saran wrap. I guess this pic was taken after an autocross comparing the conti dw and the michelin PSS. But everyone says they are something special in the wet.
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I had htrzIII on my m3. Tracked auto crossed and daily. I sold them after maybe 5k miles but the new owner went another 20k miles on them. I don't drive as hard as most of you but they did well for me on the track. And can't beat the price... When rear 275/19 cost around $300 each!
#53
Good thread. Anyone happy with anything else?
I was looking at the HTRZIII, but it was rated #14 in the Max category at TireRack. I was considering the following list for pure street, no wet driving. Has anybody run any of these? They all seemed like a good value/performance balance, at least in my 18" size:
I'm definitely going with Star Specs for track use, but planning to keep my 18's for street.
I was looking at the HTRZIII, but it was rated #14 in the Max category at TireRack. I was considering the following list for pure street, no wet driving. Has anybody run any of these? They all seemed like a good value/performance balance, at least in my 18" size:
- Kumho Ecsta LE Sport - Rated #6 in the max category
- Hankook Ventus V12 evo - Rated #8 in max
- Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 - Rated #3 in ultra
- Kumho Ecsta SPT - Rated #10 in ultra
- General g-max AS-03 - Rated #3 in ultra all-season
- Kumho Ecsta 4x - Rated #4 in ultra all-season
I'm definitely going with Star Specs for track use, but planning to keep my 18's for street.
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Good thread. Anyone happy with anything else?
I was looking at the HTRZIII, but it was rated #14 in the Max category at TireRack. I was considering the following list for pure street, no wet driving. Has anybody run any of these? They all seemed like a good value/performance balance, at least in my 18" size:
I'm definitely going with Star Specs for track use, but planning to keep my 18's for street.
I was looking at the HTRZIII, but it was rated #14 in the Max category at TireRack. I was considering the following list for pure street, no wet driving. Has anybody run any of these? They all seemed like a good value/performance balance, at least in my 18" size:
- Kumho Ecsta LE Sport - Rated #6 in the max category
- Hankook Ventus V12 evo - Rated #8 in max
- Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 - Rated #3 in ultra
- Kumho Ecsta SPT - Rated #10 in ultra
- General g-max AS-03 - Rated #3 in ultra all-season
- Kumho Ecsta 4x - Rated #4 in ultra all-season
I'm definitely going with Star Specs for track use, but planning to keep my 18's for street.
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I have mixed reviews on the HTR-ZIII. They clearly last longer, and for 80% of my driving feel nearly as grippy as rs3/star specs. However in hard cornering the soft sidewall really shows. While the tire ultimately holds the road, it doesn't feel like it for a moment or two after initial turn in. Stock suspension, UK alignment.
Rear Life:
Star spec 10K
RS3 6K
HTR ZIII 12k and going (about half the life consumed)
I auto crossed, daily drove and drove in the wet on all these tires. They all performed well in those three applications. I tracked the HTR ZIII and they didn't display much issue there - I was expecting a very sloppy experience - so for the money I'm really impressive with the 'value' not the 'performance'.
Rick I think it comes down to the life you want out of the tire. Money no object, I would run the star spec. They were the best performance tires I've driven on.
The RS3 I was disappointed it. The soft sidewall and ultra fast wear sucked. Though the grip was impressive. So I'm on the HTR ZIII because I'm tired of replacing the rears every 4-6 months.
Rear Life:
Star spec 10K
RS3 6K
HTR ZIII 12k and going (about half the life consumed)
I auto crossed, daily drove and drove in the wet on all these tires. They all performed well in those three applications. I tracked the HTR ZIII and they didn't display much issue there - I was expecting a very sloppy experience - so for the money I'm really impressive with the 'value' not the 'performance'.
Rick I think it comes down to the life you want out of the tire. Money no object, I would run the star spec. They were the best performance tires I've driven on.
The RS3 I was disappointed it. The soft sidewall and ultra fast wear sucked. Though the grip was impressive. So I'm on the HTR ZIII because I'm tired of replacing the rears every 4-6 months.
Going to swing by Orlando's place today to get a quote. I'm almost afraid to ask but do you think the standard 215/45 and 245/40/17's are good sizing to go with? I was thinking about pushing it a bit more wider but not sure what my NSX wheels can handle? This is what the sizes I'm running look like:
17x7, +60 up front (running a 15mm spacer so equates to +45 up front)
17x9, +56 in rear (running a 5mm spacer so equates to +51 in rear)
I was hoping to squeeze a 225/45 up front and 255/40/17 in the back?
Casey: I've seen your driving last time on the twisties so I can only imagine how fast you go around the corners to wear your tires like that! Must be scary being your passenger!
thanks again for all the replies and pictures!
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I agree with your plan of action. Get the Star Specs. You won't be disappointed!
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Originally Posted by jenn_bat' timestamp='1334501135' post='21609215
thought Rick was asking for an opinion of tires, not a bitch fight! still entertaining though...
I have mixed reviews on the HTR-ZIII. They clearly last longer, and for 80% of my driving feel nearly as grippy as rs3/star specs. However in hard cornering the soft sidewall really shows. While the tire ultimately holds the road, it doesn't feel like it for a moment or two after initial turn in. Stock suspension, UK alignment.
Rear Life:
Star spec 10K
RS3 6K
HTR ZIII 12k and going (about half the life consumed)
I auto crossed, daily drove and drove in the wet on all these tires. They all performed well in those three applications. I tracked the HTR ZIII and they didn't display much issue there - I was expecting a very sloppy experience - so for the money I'm really impressive with the 'value' not the 'performance'.
Rick I think it comes down to the life you want out of the tire. Money no object, I would run the star spec. They were the best performance tires I've driven on.
The RS3 I was disappointed it. The soft sidewall and ultra fast wear sucked. Though the grip was impressive. So I'm on the HTR ZIII because I'm tired of replacing the rears every 4-6 months.
Rear Life:
Star spec 10K
RS3 6K
HTR ZIII 12k and going (about half the life consumed)
I auto crossed, daily drove and drove in the wet on all these tires. They all performed well in those three applications. I tracked the HTR ZIII and they didn't display much issue there - I was expecting a very sloppy experience - so for the money I'm really impressive with the 'value' not the 'performance'.
Rick I think it comes down to the life you want out of the tire. Money no object, I would run the star spec. They were the best performance tires I've driven on.
The RS3 I was disappointed it. The soft sidewall and ultra fast wear sucked. Though the grip was impressive. So I'm on the HTR ZIII because I'm tired of replacing the rears every 4-6 months.
Going to swing by Orlando's place today to get a quote. I'm almost afraid to ask but do you think the standard 215/45 and 245/40/17's are good sizing to go with? I was thinking about pushing it a bit more wider but not sure what my NSX wheels can handle? This is what the sizes I'm running look like:
17x7, +60 up front (running a 15mm spacer so equates to +45 up front)
17x9, +56 in rear (running a 5mm spacer so equates to +51 in rear)
I was hoping to squeeze a 225/45 up front and 255/40/17 in the back?
Casey: I've seen your driving last time on the twisties so I can only imagine how fast you go around the corners to wear your tires like that! Must be scary being your passenger!
thanks again for all the replies and pictures!
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