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Old 02-06-2012 | 03:33 PM
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Great car for sure and hotly talked about on NSXprime but the problem really comes down to price....few current NSX owners including myself will lust for one just because it's a lot of money. Anytime you step into the $150k range you got UNLIMITED choices really.

The people who can really afford the car won't want it because there are too many nice cars in that price range to compete with. The ones who want it won't be able to buy it so Acura has a big uphill climb.

20 years ago the NSX was $90k and few people bought one due to the price. Factor in inflation and it's a really expensive car.

Today $90k-100k gets you into a GTR or if you are looking in the used market it's R8/997 GT3 and Turbo range. I think if the new NSX stayed in the 90-100k range it has a real shot to beat out the GTR but once you hit $150k+ it's a whole new ball game.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see what happens when the car gets released....
Old 02-07-2012 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by s4play
Great car for sure and hotly talked about on NSXprime but the problem really comes down to price....few current NSX owners including myself will lust for one just because it's a lot of money. Anytime you step into the $150k range you got UNLIMITED choices really.

The people who can really afford the car won't want it because there are too many nice cars in that price range to compete with. The ones who want it won't be able to buy it so Acura has a big uphill climb.

20 years ago the NSX was $90k and few people bought one due to the price. Factor in inflation and it's a really expensive car.

Today $90k-100k gets you into a GTR or if you are looking in the used market it's R8/997 GT3 and Turbo range. I think if the new NSX stayed in the 90-100k range it has a real shot to beat out the GTR but once you hit $150k+ it's a whole new ball game.

I guess we'll all have to wait and see what happens when the car gets released....
This is a good point. But 20 years later $90K in 1991 is more like $150k today. I think the 90K in 1991 made is the 'bested priced super car' but it's sales weren't thrown by the price. As typical honda, they have trouble with their truly 'special' cars. NSX/S2K should have sold in droves, but they don't meet the American markets needs.

So even if the car is priced at $90K today it's not going to sell any better. Cars that get volume are <$70K. People will buy vettes that post bigger figures for power and displacement. Sadly that is what our domestic market looks for.

Will I buy one at $200K? Not currently, I'd have to be in a different position. That's where I think the S2000 offered a lot of car for the money. Can Honda make another pure drivers car in the $30-40K price point? It would seem they can't make enough profit at it to make it worth their while.

I often wonder if it won't be until the 75th Honda birthday that we see something along the lines of another S2000?
Old 02-07-2012 | 09:27 PM
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To begin with, Honda charged $89K for the NSX, up until 2005, when it was stopped. The price didn't increase to reflect inflation while on the market. The Nissan GTR has risen in price by $12K since it was introduced in 2009. The C6 Corvette Z06? $65k when introduced, now the MSRP is easily $10k more than the original price.

Unless there's some unique pieces to the NSX, I honestly can't see them charging $150K. The engine 'is going to be a V6, and it's probably going to be derived from one of those direct-injection V6 engines that Honda recently introduced. Personally I really can't see Honda pricing the NSX over 100K, and like Rick said, at $150k the world is yours in terms of options. Even at 100k the NSX is a hard sell.


Originally Posted by rob-2
Can Honda make another pure drivers car in the $30-40K price point? It would seem they can't make enough profit at it to make it worth their while.

I often wonder if it won't be until the 75th Honda birthday that we see something along the lines of another S2000?
IDK, if they built one today, where would they position it? If it remains a 4 cylinder roadster, it will look like a terrible value compared to the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ, and it will look even worse compared to the 370z/Pony cars/Genesis coupe/ BMW 135i if it retailed for $30K. Honda wont embrace FI, so unless they put a high revving V6 in, or price it in the mid 20s and keep the 4 cylinder, who would buy it?
Old 02-08-2012 | 08:24 AM
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^Stacey, nothing is set in stone right now but between news and rumors, it's pretty sure the new NSX will be north of $150k+ so that does put it in a very elite group of cars. With the current value of used cars, you can find very good condition low mileage F430's in that price easy while 360's are in the $90-100k range. I've been eyeing R8 v10's for quite some time now and the V10 spyder has dropped to $150k with a few thousand miles. Many other exotics can be had for under $150k so no matter how cool the NSX is to the JDM market, the car is marketed to an upper echelon crowd who may/may not be impressed. This is the uphill battle Acura has.


Rob: I was just thinking that $90k is roughly $150k today as well. Even a $90k Acura would be a tough sell in today's economy so at $150k, it will be even harder. The NSX when it was first released had a lower sticker price in 1991 around $70k (don't quote me but it's less) but the 2002+ models stickers at $89k which is big money! I remember when I was lusting after the Mitsubushi VR-4 spyder which was like $69k back then at a Mitsubishi dealer!
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Old 02-08-2012 | 12:18 PM
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“Like the first NSX, we will again express high performance through engineering efficiency,” added Ito, who led the development of Acura’s first NSX supercar. “In this new era, even as we focus on the fun to drive spirit of the 2013 Acura NSX, I think a supercar must respond positively to environmental responsibilities.” Meanwhile, the 2013 Acura NSX price will be started from $32,895 – $37,995.
That was in the above post. Must be wrong.
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Originally Posted by rob-2
“Like the first NSX, we will again express high performance through engineering efficiency,” added Ito, who led the development of Acura’s first NSX supercar. “In this new era, even as we focus on the fun to drive spirit of the 2013 Acura NSX, I think a supercar must respond positively to environmental responsibilities.” Meanwhile, the 2013 Acura NSX price will be started from $32,895 – $37,995.
That was in the above post. Must be wrong.
I think it was a typo but imagine the possibilities at that price...
Old 02-08-2012 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
“Like the first NSX, we will again express high performance through engineering efficiency,” added Ito, who led the development of Acura’s first NSX supercar. “In this new era, even as we focus on the fun to drive spirit of the 2013 Acura NSX, I think a supercar must respond positively to environmental responsibilities.” Meanwhile, the 2013 Acura NSX price will be started from $32,895 – $37,995.
That was in the above post. Must be wrong.
I think it was a typo
Old 02-08-2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ics2ks
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“Like the first NSX, we will again express high performance through engineering efficiency,” added Ito, who led the development of Acura’s first NSX supercar. “In this new era, even as we focus on the fun to drive spirit of the 2013 Acura NSX, I think a supercar must respond positively to environmental responsibilities.” Meanwhile, the 2013 Acura NSX price will be started from $32,895 – $37,995.
That was in the above post. Must be wrong.
I think it was a typo but imagine the possibilities at that price...
just read road and track and they are suggesting around the 100K mark. GT-R area. Rick you game at this price?

Article went on to suggest 0-60 in the 3s zone. 310hp from v6 and 100hp from each of the electric motors which there are 2. For a total of 510hp, and lots of low end tq.

Could be fun.
Old 02-08-2012 | 08:09 PM
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I wonder , could this be the first production car with KERS?



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