Greg W

Wanting to keep my skin neatly wrapped around the outside of my liver and kidneys, I ordered the Hard Dog bar with double diagonals rather then a removable diagonal. Was afraid of smacking the back of my bare head on that attachment bracket welded to the top hoop during a street incident.

bluenote

Many good points here..I have the Hard Dog Roll Bar and would have it just to go to Safeway and back,let alone when I track the car.The roll hoops on the S are not high enough to offer real protection. One added plus you get from the roll bar is it tightens up the rear end.

Voodoo_S2K

I don't find that an accurate statement as unfortunately plenty of rolled S2000 have proven the OEM roll hoops do a fairly good job of protecting the occupants. In many cases, injuries that occurred were a result of the front windshield collapsing.

ES2K

This was a big concern of mine when I bought my S2K. I was torn between buying a Miata and making modifications or buying an S2K and just driving it. I previously owned an early Miata. The Miata Hard Dog roll bar install was easy and did not require destroying the interior. I took the Miata to the track about once a year. Since I am 6'2"; I doubt that I will be passing any broom stick tests in the S2K. I need to get some track time as my street driving is starting to push the envelope of legality. But, cutting up the interior in the S2K is not acceptable and the after market roll bars I have seen for the S2K that fit with the roll hoops greatly reduce cabin space.
Maybe I need a second car for the track

bluenote

Ultimately, I think the decision to fit a roll bar comes down too I feel lucky? (thanks to Clint Eastwood here)...If you feel the stock set up offers adequate protection then drive on. Im now at the point in my driving where I want all the protection I can get, so a solid SCCA approved roll bar is important to me. 20 years ago I probably would not have bothered because I was under the impression that I was indestructible.
BTW, ES2K you can fit the Hard Dog and cut the trim to make it look almost like a factory job...it takes a lot of time and patience but done correctly it looks great.

Project22a

Someone on here had a custom rollbar done that fit really nicely with the interior. IIRC he said it was done at Roger Kraus (I'm probably wrong)? It was on a Silverstone AP2 and the bar was painted to match; Met him at a friday meet a long time ago. Anyone remember who this was?

Voodoo_S2K

That was Joe and it was not done by Roger Kraus. I'm in the process of trying to get that bar replicated.

Project22a

Where'd he have it made?

As a side note, I wonder if our fingerprints are still embedded in the paint

2159ClassicRed

Didnt' want to light a fire.

Maybe they should offer an option based on experience. More serious and faster group should require more protection.

I do agree on the insurance speculation, but all of this is speculation.

chuhsi

anyone know how much a hard dog bar generally costs to install? i personally don't want to spend 2 full days trying to install it.