thunderhill session
#62
I'm not one for driving at night and Casey can testify to that lol if I can't see I don't go.
I can't say that I'll ever stop driving on the street, it's how I was taught to drive.
I love the Street
I love Auto X
I love the Track
There are dangers to all three, the passion overcomes the risks taken, I hope I never loose my passion for driving.
Can we all just love that? Who's down for a reacharound?
Can I be first?
I can't say that I'll ever stop driving on the street, it's how I was taught to drive.
I love the Street
I love Auto X
I love the Track
There are dangers to all three, the passion overcomes the risks taken, I hope I never loose my passion for driving.
Can we all just love that? Who's down for a reacharound?
Can I be first?
Also, can we get a list of names who are definitely down for the circle jerk? and those who are just tentative?
#63
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Originally Posted by macr88' timestamp='1345093175' post='21940857
I'm not one for driving at night and Casey can testify to that lol if I can't see I don't go.
I can't say that I'll ever stop driving on the street, it's how I was taught to drive.
I love the Street
I love Auto X
I love the Track
There are dangers to all three, the passion overcomes the risks taken, I hope I never loose my passion for driving.
Can we all just love that? Who's down for a reacharound?
Can I be first?
I can't say that I'll ever stop driving on the street, it's how I was taught to drive.
I love the Street
I love Auto X
I love the Track
There are dangers to all three, the passion overcomes the risks taken, I hope I never loose my passion for driving.
Can we all just love that? Who's down for a reacharound?
Can I be first?
Also, can we get a list of names who are definitely down for the circle jerk? and those who are just tentative?
#64
I didn't teach you anything. All I did was pointing out what you're doing differently than I was that's all. Don't take my words as writing on the stone. Keep driving and ask faster people for pointer like I did.
#65
Good post tbbsrr. Worth mentioning though, there is no way to get better at auto x other than actually doing auto x. The same goes for touge, track, karting, whatever. They are all extremely different from eachother and everyone's experiences are different as well. No one should feel bad about being slow in auto x against people with more experience. Just as someone with only auto x experience shouldn't feel bad about being slow on the mountains, or in a stage rally for an example of an official motorsport.
For the record, I have never met a single "hard core street racer" who was actually fast in the mountains. Actually, I have never met anyone who was actually a hard core street racer either. If they say they are, just stop listening to anything they say after that. People who are fast are out there for one reason and one reason only, to get better at driving. Nobody is out there challenging others to races on a regular basis, they just aren't. The best drivers are out there all alone when the roads are completely empty just enjoying themselves.
You are absolutely right about the track/auto x being a safer place to learn the limits of your car. It is all about your attitude though. Most will learn them much faster at the track as well, that doesn't mean you can't safely (relatively) learn on the mountains as well. Mountain driving isn't about learning the limits of the car though, at least for me. It is simply about having fun and becoming a better driver.
For the record, I have never met a single "hard core street racer" who was actually fast in the mountains. Actually, I have never met anyone who was actually a hard core street racer either. If they say they are, just stop listening to anything they say after that. People who are fast are out there for one reason and one reason only, to get better at driving. Nobody is out there challenging others to races on a regular basis, they just aren't. The best drivers are out there all alone when the roads are completely empty just enjoying themselves.
You are absolutely right about the track/auto x being a safer place to learn the limits of your car. It is all about your attitude though. Most will learn them much faster at the track as well, that doesn't mean you can't safely (relatively) learn on the mountains as well. Mountain driving isn't about learning the limits of the car though, at least for me. It is simply about having fun and becoming a better driver.
My definition of hard core racer is some one that is street taught. Never been on the track. Practice everything he learned on the street. I know few of those guys. I had a passion for touge as well and grew out of it. Yes, I do missed it sometime, but not enough to start the car and drive in the dark.
You said no one compete. Every time I do back road, every one is trying to ditch the car behind. The car behind is always trying to glue to the lead car bumper. It was like this every time I do my street runs. I always wanted to see how fast some one else is, and how good I compare to them. That's my attitude towards it, that's why I turned to auto x. I felt that I can't reach the next level on the street. Since I can afford to do track and auto x now, I choose them over touge.
I felt bad every time I do auto x and track day and can't keep up with the faster cars. That's why I continue to drive hard to improve and challenge myself. I'm not that competitive but would like to do well when I do something. There's no point in doing it for me if i'm not improving. Yes, it's more about how you look at things and your attitude towards it. Any one can enjoy what ever they like, when is not affecting or cause harm to other people that's not aware of what you're doing on public road.
We all missed the point of this thread. He's asking for track advice, and all he got was back road this back road that. None of it that will help any of us enjoy our track more.
#68
#70
Yes, don't listen to me. I'm a nobody. I'm not the fastest guy in my run group. But, I hope by sharing my experience for those who wants to improved they driving skills. This will keep them safe and every one else that's not having fun and not trying to become a better driver.
My definition of hard core racer is some one that is street taught. Never been on the track. Practice everything he learned on the street. I know few of those guys. I had a passion for touge as well and grew out of it. Yes, I do missed it sometime, but not enough to start the car and drive in the dark.
You said no one compete. Every time I do back road, every one is trying to ditch the car behind. The car behind is always trying to glue to the lead car bumper. It was like this every time I do my street runs. I always wanted to see how fast some one else is, and how good I compare to them. That's my attitude towards it, that's why I turned to auto x. I felt that I can't reach the next level on the street. Since I can afford to do track and auto x now, I choose them over touge.
I felt bad every time I do auto x and track day and can't keep up with the faster cars. That's why I continue to drive hard to improve and challenge myself. I'm not that competitive but would like to do well when I do something. There's no point in doing it for me if i'm not improving. Yes, it's more about how you look at things and your attitude towards it. Any one can enjoy what ever they like, when is not affecting or cause harm to other people that's not aware of what you're doing on public road.
We all missed the point of this thread. He's asking for track advice, and all he got was back road this back road that. None of it that will help any of us enjoy our track more.
My definition of hard core racer is some one that is street taught. Never been on the track. Practice everything he learned on the street. I know few of those guys. I had a passion for touge as well and grew out of it. Yes, I do missed it sometime, but not enough to start the car and drive in the dark.
You said no one compete. Every time I do back road, every one is trying to ditch the car behind. The car behind is always trying to glue to the lead car bumper. It was like this every time I do my street runs. I always wanted to see how fast some one else is, and how good I compare to them. That's my attitude towards it, that's why I turned to auto x. I felt that I can't reach the next level on the street. Since I can afford to do track and auto x now, I choose them over touge.
I felt bad every time I do auto x and track day and can't keep up with the faster cars. That's why I continue to drive hard to improve and challenge myself. I'm not that competitive but would like to do well when I do something. There's no point in doing it for me if i'm not improving. Yes, it's more about how you look at things and your attitude towards it. Any one can enjoy what ever they like, when is not affecting or cause harm to other people that's not aware of what you're doing on public road.
We all missed the point of this thread. He's asking for track advice, and all he got was back road this back road that. None of it that will help any of us enjoy our track more.
Hardcore teabaggers, "I learned everything I know about teabagging on the streets son! I run these streets!"