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Old 10-19-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jarod,Oct 19 2006, 02:32 PM
The viewfinder can be fixed. There's cheap aftermarket eyepieces that can be swapped in.

High ISO noise? I guess it's nice to have noise that is more "film-like", but I prefer Canon's low noise to start with. Canon's image sensors produce great low noise high iso images. You are right though about the feel of the lower end Nikons in comparison to the lower end Canons.

My reason for going canon:

image quality
lens selection
low noise in high iso mode
full frame for $3k (I have a 5D)
heh yah, that's why I mentioned under $2k. The 5d rocks!

But, the d80 is very close in noise performance.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/dslr...ison/index.htm

This is a pretty good comparison. But, it doesn't include the 5D.
Old 10-19-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by arrrmand,Oct 19 2006, 01:48 PM
i just absolutely hate everything about the rebels from their build quality and interface.


Don't forget slow to focus, easy to miss focus, melts in sunscreen, and just about snapps in half when you mount a lens and a flash to it.
Old 10-20-2006, 08:00 AM
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You really can't go wrong with either the D80 and the 30D. I all comes down to prefences. I spent like 2 weeks going back and forth between these 2. I must have spent a total of 2 hours at Bestbuy handling both camera and playing around with the settings and menu before I decided on the 30D. I just found out that our local Costco is selling a D80 with 2 Nikon lense kit (18-55mm and 18-135mm) for $1299. That is a pretty good deal since the best deal online is $1299 with just the 18-135mm lense kit.
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I would stick with new lenses.

Not to give any excuses but I let google (picasa) edit and convert that image..
Long story but I lost the RAW file..
I'm not sure if this is right either.. Maybe you guys can help..

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Originally Posted by jj2f1,Oct 18 2006, 10:36 AM
If I was starting out, and knew what I know now, and had $2500 to spend here are a couple of kit sets I would go with.

For Macro and low light I think this might be a good starting point.

Used 20D - $1000 or less
EF85 f1.8 - $380
EF17-40 f4 L - $600
Kenko extension tubes - $120
Good Tripod, CF cards

With the EF85 f1.8 you will be able to take photos of people in low light, parties, etc. You can use the extension tubes on the 85 for macro, and the 17-40 works well for wide angle macro as well. You can also use both of these lenses on your tripod for longer expouse night photography.

These are just some ideas. If you have more questions I can give you some more input. Like Mac said it is never ending learning.

Oh, I would also stay away from the EF-S 18-55 and the EF-S 17-85, to many issues. The 17-85 is ok, but it is way to expensive for the quality.

Justin
I would have to agree. I have the EF85 f1.8 , EF17-40 f4L and the EF50 f/1.8

The EF85 f1.8 is good for portrait shots and indoor/low light situations.

I use the EF17-40 f4L mostly for my landscape and architecture shots.

The EF50 f/1.8 is probably my favorite lens... well as of the moment.. It's super cheap (can be had for <$100). It's pretty good indoors and really good for the shallow pictures.

Just depends what kind of photos you plan on taking. From there your choices of lenses are at least somewhat narrowed down. I prefer Canon over Nikon anyday. Ergonomically, I hated the way the Nikon felt. Didn't like the way the buttons were setup, the menu features or how to navigate through the menu.

The cost of a camera body is a one time dent to the pocket, but the lens is an ongoing money pit.
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Originally Posted by lilazngrl4o8,Oct 22 2006, 09:29 AM
The cost of a camera body is a one time dent to the pocket, but the lens is an ongoing money pit.
Over time you will certainly spend more on lenses than on cameras. Well, I keep buying lenses and I still have the same camera, and I think my camera is a hoopty.
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