Steering Wheel Angle Sensor
11-10-2011, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by playground_the' timestamp='1320900579' post='21144220
its very common for the steering angle to fail on any car equipped with some kind of vehicle stability control
Bottom line is, its your choice whether you want to fix it or not, not saying nor i know how you drive, but why not, after crap loads of money Honda spent on engineering this, have it, you can always turn it of when you dont want it, but if it doesnt work you cant just turn it on.
Its common on any car for the clockspring AKA steering wheel angle sensor to go bad, not just honda. by saying "common" means if you get a code for the angle sensor, its most likely going to be the sensor itself, rather than VSA at the wheels or wheel speed sensor. And yes, if the problem is intermittent, by law, you cannot tell the customer that he/she needs to replace the part. though most shops and dealer would say that they "recomend" replace the part.
11-10-2011, 10:40 PM
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Let's go back to a possible root cause. Did you by happen to remove your steering wheel, replace it or unplug any yellow harness plugs? If you're looking for help, we'd need more information to help you.
11-10-2011, 11:42 PM
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I wouldn't know in all honesty. My parents got me the car like this and I've had the vsa light on since the day they got it for me. Everything is stock though from what I can tell
11-10-2011, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Khunnie' timestamp='1320860903' post='21142313
My VSA stayed on and I had it checked out at the dealership to see whats wrong. They said it was a steering angle sensor failure but to make sure, they need to run more tests on it and it would cost me $180 more on top for the extra tests. DTC code: 27-1
The Tech may know what their doing, and want to run more tests to make sure its the sensor and not a wiring or control module that is having a problem.
11-11-2011, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianZ' timestamp='1320940256' post='21145248
[quote name='playground_the' timestamp='1320900579' post='21144220']
its very common for the steering angle to fail on any car equipped with some kind of vehicle stability control
its very common for the steering angle to fail on any car equipped with some kind of vehicle stability control
Bottom line is, its your choice whether you want to fix it or not, not saying nor i know how you drive, but why not, after crap loads of money Honda spent on engineering this, have it, you can always turn it of when you dont want it, but if it doesnt work you cant just turn it on.
Its common on any car for the clockspring AKA steering wheel angle sensor to go bad, not just honda. by saying "common" means if you get a code for the angle sensor, its most likely going to be the sensor itself, rather than VSA at the wheels or wheel speed sensor. And yes, if the problem is intermittent, by law, you cannot tell the customer that he/she needs to replace the part. though most shops and dealer would say that they "recomend" replace the part.
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What failure rate per 1000 units is required to be considered common?
For example, in many industries a double digit percentage failure rate is required before it's considered common. If 1 in 1000 fail this is considered to be low. EI 0.1% likely. Even 10 in 1000 or 1% failure rate my be thought to be uncommon, but move from rare/unlikely to not outside the possibility for regular failure.
A across the entire production line error of 5-6% got Honda in hot water with their Tach/Speedo's being off and over billing. However since this was an average error rate it would suggest some Tach/Speedo's were off much more than that. Generally accepted error rate for a Tach/Speedo is +/- 3%.
So I would suggest for you to consider this common, of the 70K s2000 within the USA we should see >2100 cars needing replacement of their sensor prior to it becoming common.
What is common is some soft top tears on certain years.
11-11-2011, 02:05 PM
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Its common on any car for the clockspring AKA steering wheel angle sensor to go bad, not just honda. by saying "common" means if you get a code for the angle sensor, its most likely going to be the sensor itself, rather than VSA at the wheels or wheel speed sensor. And yes, if the problem is intermittent, by law, you cannot tell the customer that he/she needs to replace the part. though most shops and dealer would say that they "recomend" replace the part.
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