S2000 smokes brz
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I think the FRS would be a good complimenting beater/daily to a weekend/HPDE S2K or other car. After a few years, the used prices on a FRS shouldnt be too bad.
Im considering doing this maybe 3+ years from now once the platform has developed further; should make for a fun all around daily driver.
EDIT:
I just spent a couple hours watching a bunch of track/mountain/street video reviews of the FRS & it sure does look like it handles well - its balanced. You can easily induce an oversteer drift that looks to be very subtle, smooth & controllable for the moderate-advanced driver. I feel like it makes the driver feel secure during the slide/drift - something that can easily be learned in the FRS where as in the S2K I feel it takes driver skill & extended practice. The lack of HP is easily assisted by the lower CG & handling of the chassis thus giving it that balanced appearance.
It's almost as if the FRS is competing with the Nissan territory for sideways action & ease of recovery.
Greddy already came out with a turbo kit & there is an all track setup FRS that is tearing it up on Laguna. This truly looks like a promising car for tuners & enthusiast to build upon for the next decade to come.
I think the only thing I would do out of the box is depending on the suspension, lower it a little, use stickier tiers & a couple of breather mods to help with throttle feel if needed. Not sure how well the brakes work - I saw tests of 60-0 in 118ft. Maybe some pads & fluid to get it track ready. All my speculation at this point.
If you can lighten this up by 100lbs or so; I think it would help tremendously especially if unsprung weight.
Im considering doing this maybe 3+ years from now once the platform has developed further; should make for a fun all around daily driver.
EDIT:
I just spent a couple hours watching a bunch of track/mountain/street video reviews of the FRS & it sure does look like it handles well - its balanced. You can easily induce an oversteer drift that looks to be very subtle, smooth & controllable for the moderate-advanced driver. I feel like it makes the driver feel secure during the slide/drift - something that can easily be learned in the FRS where as in the S2K I feel it takes driver skill & extended practice. The lack of HP is easily assisted by the lower CG & handling of the chassis thus giving it that balanced appearance.
It's almost as if the FRS is competing with the Nissan territory for sideways action & ease of recovery.
Greddy already came out with a turbo kit & there is an all track setup FRS that is tearing it up on Laguna. This truly looks like a promising car for tuners & enthusiast to build upon for the next decade to come.
I think the only thing I would do out of the box is depending on the suspension, lower it a little, use stickier tiers & a couple of breather mods to help with throttle feel if needed. Not sure how well the brakes work - I saw tests of 60-0 in 118ft. Maybe some pads & fluid to get it track ready. All my speculation at this point.
If you can lighten this up by 100lbs or so; I think it would help tremendously especially if unsprung weight.
#22
I'll probably be shopping for an FR-S rather than another s2K later this year. I've been outrunning "faster" cars with slower cars for decades. More fun that way and I learn better technique.
^^I agree, if you live your life a quarter mile at a time.
^^I agree, if you live your life a quarter mile at a time.
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That is not really a fair fight to be honest. Both around 2800lbs and one has 40hp less and has more tire. Not to mention the BR-Z is significantly cheaper than an S2000 of any era. "The best Subaru/Toyota can make"?! Subaru has already built an entire generation of cars much faster than an S2000 in a straight line for years and years now for around the same price, and Toyota has this car from the 90s called the Supra, maybe you have heard of it?
I can't wait to drive a BR-Z/FR-S/86! I am sure it has a very similar personality to the S2000.
Jokes!? This is serious business!
Your dad seems like a fantastic gentleman. Make sure you let him know I think the world of him and that he is a credit to the human race! Also, maybe he lets me borrow the keys to both of those cars, maybe? (said in best Zoidberg voice)
I can't wait to drive a BR-Z/FR-S/86! I am sure it has a very similar personality to the S2000.
Jokes!? This is serious business!
I dont think the BRZ and s2000 are comparable. My dad's getting a Toyota/Subaru Ae86 whatever in the near future to replace his 2007 civic si. If he lets me, I'll bring it to the meet someday. Whenever its easily avaible and able to get a test drive, he'll get one. Not letting go of the Si tho.