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Old 10-10-2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by macr88
Originally Posted by Andrie' timestamp='1318205387' post='21054609
The Exedium diff collar is basically a collar that goes where the rubber is on the stock diff mount. Making it rigid. We installed it, but to tell you the truth, I can not tell any difference. However, I can tell that this might benefit older cars with old cracked rubber on their mount. I might leave it in the car cause, I couldn't feel any difference and it might prolonged my rubber from cracking. I know, I've read Mac, review saying he felt a great difference. He might feel it, but I don't.
I'm surprised you feel no difference at all I only have like 57 thousand miles on the mounts and they looked fine.

I hope you feel the difference with the engine mount rings my fillings sure did notice a difference
Doh. I've got a temporary crown on right now. Let's hope it doesn't vibrate off after we install the rings.
Old 10-10-2011 | 12:52 PM
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Great post Andrie and thanks for clarifying that the test you performed were based off a setup using roll center adjusters. Were you able to find the instant center of each side with weight of driver? I’d be interested in taking your measurements and compare them to coilovers set at the same ride height/no RCA’s. Curious to see what the differences are in control arm angle, bumpsteer spacing and camber gain. I’ve got a stock S2k waiting on the JRZ’s if you catch my drift

As far as the diff collars go, an alternative I recommend would be to try Hasport's Diff Mount Kit. I'm running the 62 duro street and at the softest option of the 4 they offer and they're by far better than the collars that we've installed on customers cars in the past (you can feel the torque transfer to the diff upon acceleration more so than with collars). Tom/Andrie I have mine off the car if you guys want to give it a try.
Old 10-10-2011 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTrax
Were you able to find the instant center of each side with weight of driver? I’d be interested in taking your measurements and compare them to coilovers set at the same ride height/no RCA’s. Curious to see what the differences are in control arm angle, bumpsteer spacing and camber gain. I’ve got a stock S2k waiting on the JRZ’s if you catch my drift
No I don't. This involves transposing 3D coordinate to a spread sheet. Much more work than I'd like to do. Also, like I said, in reality, this roll center thing is much more complex. Static roll center almost doesn't mean much. I think the gain by rising rate camber is the most beneficial to this mod.
Old 10-10-2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackTrax
Great post Andrie and thanks for clarifying that the test you performed were based off a setup using roll center adjusters. Were you able to find the instant center of each side with weight of driver? I’d be interested in taking your measurements and compare them to coilovers set at the same ride height/no RCA’s. Curious to see what the differences are in control arm angle, bumpsteer spacing and camber gain. I’ve got a stock S2k waiting on the JRZ’s if you catch my drift

As far as the diff collars go, an alternative I recommend would be to try Hasport's Diff Mount Kit. I'm running the 62 duro street and at the softest option of the 4 they offer and they're by far better than the collars that we've installed on customers cars in the past (you can feel the torque transfer to the diff upon acceleration more so than with collars). Tom/Andrie I have mine off the car if you guys want to give it a try.
I'm down to try em out. Thanks Jei!
Old 10-12-2011 | 07:10 PM
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Bump. Maybe this is worth moving to the Racing subforum?
Old 10-13-2011 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tunerplayground
Bump. Maybe this is worth moving to the Racing subforum?
I agree but it's up to Andrie what he wants done with it. I can only assume he wants it here since this is where he posted it.
Old 10-13-2011 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrie
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Were you able to find the instant center of each side with weight of driver? I’d be interested in taking your measurements and compare them to coilovers set at the same ride height/no RCA’s. Curious to see what the differences are in control arm angle, bumpsteer spacing and camber gain. I’ve got a stock S2k waiting on the JRZ’s if you catch my drift
No I don't. This involves transposing 3D coordinate to a spread sheet. Much more work than I'd like to do. Also, like I said, in reality, this roll center thing is much more complex. Static roll center almost doesn't mean much. I think the gain by rising rate camber is the most beneficial to this mod.
not to mention, more bump/compression travel...correct?
Old 10-16-2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by -outkast-
not to mention, more bump/compression travel...correct?
Not necessarily. The bump Travel on the s2k is limited by the tire hitting the front frame rail and the fender before any of the suspension component travel limit.

I did measurement on my personal car yesterday. I'll post the findings on the original post.
Old 01-25-2012 | 02:39 PM
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Andrie,

To clarify:

If the car has RCAs then you would NOT rec the front tie-rod bump steer kit.

But if the car does NOT have RCAs then the tie-rod bump steer kit is recommended?

correct?
Old 01-25-2012 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by speedstar808
Andrie,

To clarify:

If the car has RCAs then you would NOT rec the front tie-rod bump steer kit.
The answer is depends. What thickness RCA?

Originally Posted by speedstar808
But if the car does NOT have RCAs then the tie-rod bump steer kit is recommended?

correct?
I never said such things and should not be inferred as such. Never measured them without RCA, so it is inconclusive.



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