y0heezee

i agree. too many people run red lights on 19th. especially in front of state, even when there are usually always cops there. i've had my m1 for about 1 1/2 years now, but unfortunately, i don't have a bike not because of the danger. damn financial struggles from bring a college student. =\

ItsBen

Yeah, its things like this deter me from riding again. You really have to ride like you are invisible. Those who ride, be careful out there.

yamez

its just too bad, in this situation that car that beat the red light is at fault.. i dont hate motorcyclists but please, whoever does ride a bike. dont risk your lives (or others) try to be more cautious...

i do know to ride a bike (dad have a yellow duc). but since two of my uncles died riding a bike.. i have no more balls to ride one again.

Orthonormal

I hate even driving in San Francisco. I have hardly ever seen a red light there that didn't get run by at least one driver. I just assume it's going to happen so I just wait until I see the first cars that actually stop. I imagine that it would suck to be a motorcyclist in that situation...you pull up to the front because that's what you're taught to do (I guess, motorcyclists all seem to do this). Then you don't want to seem like you're holding up traffic behind you, but you don't want to take off when someone is running the light.

thruxton

when i ride, i know i appreciate when people blink before lane changes. you don't have to see me just give me a chance to get out of your way, is what riders think.

as for accidents at red lights, that's just what it is; of course the motorcyclist should assume the worst (for self preservation) but that car could have killed someone in a car just the same. they are at fault, end of story.

RIP rider

Eddie J

If you want to read more about what happened, here you go: Motorcycle accident in SF...


I ride too and am a newbie. I thought I was a good driver, but there is SO MUCH more to pay attention to when you're on a bike and the only thing separating you from others (and the ground/pavement/asphalt/unfriendly metal parts of cars and trucks) is a few layers of leather, fabric, etc...

You really learn to be aware of ALL that's around you. You also see all the people that aren't paying attention. There are some idiots on bikes that ride rudely...and some in cars that do the same. If EVERYONE had to take MSF, learn how to ride a bike, and then go out and do it in the real world, we'd have a much better group of drivers on the roads.

Maybe we'd even weed out many that shouldn't be on the road either...

Thanks for reading...

macr88

Waiting will do nothing, you should look both ways even if the lights been green for a while especially if the intersection is empty.
I was stopped at a red light and was almost ran over on the bike, if I hadn't moved out of the way she would have plowed right through me.

thejohnremus

terrible to hear.

I've been riding a lot more down here in LA ... but even as much as I find myself lane sharing or cutting to the front at lights... I NEVER go when it turns green.. there are always people who run the reds... typically two or three cars

J's_Suzuka

After my years of experience riding I noticed that what makes a decent and proficient motorcyclist turns you into a really outstanding driver.

Be careful out there guys, too many people are careless.

manahoonie

sadluy enough, you never know where red-light runners will be coming from...

i was rear-ended because i was having a nice morning, and when i saw the light change to yellow, i chose to slow down and stop...complete stop when light changed to red.....




guy behind me thought i was going to run it