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Old 03-07-2012 | 11:23 PM
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Old 03-08-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Anyone who gives these crooks money is a dumbass...
Old 03-08-2012 | 12:24 PM
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Call me insensitive, but shouldn't we try to fix our own country before focusing on Africa?
It's hard to help another if you don't even know how to help yourself.
Old 03-08-2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eklipz98
Call me insensitive, but shouldn't we try to fix our own country before focusing on Africa?
It's hard to help another if you don't even know how to help yourself.
I do agree but sometimes when an event like this magnitude and inhumane is happening, then we should not ignore but interfere and do what our instincts/innate told us to do which is what is right. We don't need an interest or gain any financial values from a country but from history it looks like we have but things can change. I sometimes think back of my parents, if it weren't for the U.S./Vietnam interference, then the genocide of Cambodia would of escalated to over 2 million tortured/raped/slaved/starved etc...my parents are still scared to even go back. Why go back to a country you barely escaped and were enslaved by an insane dictator, especially inhumane. If it weren't for an awareness and intervene, I'd think I'd see a whole lot more beheaded skulls standing on top of sticks by the hundreds of thousands. I would rather be dead by an assault rifle, missile, tank than slowly by torture. Even that kid in the video said "I'd rather be dead now because it's not going to get better and what's their to wait for when there's no future?" I don't his exact quotes but at least I hear his message. On the other hand, yes our country we can't help ourselves, but we do have a heart to try and help a friend regardless if we gain anything from them. Sometimes, I think to myself after this life, will we be born in Somalia, die from starvation, flee for my life in Rwanda from extremely superstitious crazed rebels, be born an Orca and get preyed by Japanese fishermen, live as a monkey and get experimented by scientists via injected, or die from serious side effects being born in India as a test a drug-experiment test subject. All in all, at least this video made me aware, remimded me of what is going on around the world, and that 'it may be possible' to use social network thru the connections of 'likes' and celebrities to to try bring to our attention that we can do something now before 2012 or completely forget/brush it off later. It has a deadline, vision, statement, motivation, determination and a voice to try to use social networking as an experiment and make a change. It has worked in Egypt, Lybia, Iran etc..but not really. It did unstabilize the countries but at least that there is hope and change. We're living in a world of information, media and networking age at the moment and I think someone is clever and ambitious enough to make a change. I've lived in the U.S. for about 20 years now, and wrote a few letters to congress to get more help on the homelessness problem in SF but it hasn't changed much. I admire that someone like the film maker is stepping-up because I in no way can duplicate what his film talent, innate and vision is of this magnitude. Who would want to stay in Africa that long, risk their life, and come back continously to try to change a country and be a voice for the dying people there? It takes a leader and an inniative.

All in all, it's true that we should try and help ourselves first. But to risk our lives for someone else is beyond what I can explain. I would probably due that too. Just say next life, you are born in Africa, and you are that boy/girl in the video, wouldn't you wish someone out there came w/ the superpowers came to help?

This situation w/ Kony is comparable to the Killing Fields of Cambodia b/t 1974-1979. It's very similar. Basically, at the end of 1975 Cambodia's civil war, Khmer Rouge(Red rebels or communist) took over the city, towns, said it was 'YEAR ZERO,' told everyone to get out of their house, do not bring any belongings, and were all herded to farm. Married couples, single people, elderly, educated folks, kids, all were separated into various groups for farming duties. Most kids were gathered in one group where they lined up. They were told to kill their own parents. If the child didn't kill their parents, then the kid behind them will kill both the kid in front and his/her parents. What Koni and Pol Pot did were brain washing the kids by forcefully drugging them, alcohol, weed, kill anyone educated or can think. Pretty sad how a communist Maoist by himself can brain wash so many people. Another thing, even after the genocide was about to end, after the U.S. bombings, my dad ran as fast as he could during the war towards the Thailand borders, but someone dumped their baby on the ground because they were afraid that if they brought the child along, she would cry and it will reveal the location of the escapees to the communist rebels. My dad actually picked up the girl and risk his life to save someone else's baby. Now, she's living in Brazil with two children and is thankful.

Just my opinion. It's a great discussion forum here for ideas and perspective.
Old 03-08-2012 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by XenonKiller99
Originally Posted by eklipz98' timestamp='1331238279' post='21490665
Call me insensitive, but shouldn't we try to fix our own country before focusing on Africa?
It's hard to help another if you don't even know how to help yourself.
I do agree but sometimes when an event like this magnitude and inhumane is happening, then we should not ignore but interfere and do what our instincts/innate told us to do which is what is right. We don't need an interest or gain any financial values from a country but from history it looks like we have but things can change. I sometimes think back of my parents, if it weren't for the U.S./Vietnam interference, then the genocide of Cambodia would of escalated to over 2 million tortured/raped/slaved/starved etc...my parents are still scared to even go back. Why go back to a country you barely escaped and were enslaved by an insane dictator, especially inhumane. If it weren't for an awareness and intervene, I'd think I'd see a whole lot more beheaded skulls standing on top of sticks by the hundreds of thousands. I would rather be dead by an assault rifle, missile, tank than slowly by torture. Even that kid in the video said "I'd rather be dead now because it's not going to get better and what's their to wait for when there's no future?" I don't his exact quotes but at least I hear his message. On the other hand, yes our country we can't help ourselves, but we do have a heart to try and help a friend regardless if we gain anything from them. Sometimes, I think to myself after this life, will we be born in Somalia, die from starvation, flee for my life in Rwanda from extremely superstitious crazed rebels, be born an Orca and get preyed by Japanese fishermen, live as a monkey and get experimented by scientists via injected, or die from serious side effects being born in India as a test a drug-experiment test subject. All in all, at least this video made me aware, remimded me of what is going on around the world, and that 'it may be possible' to use social network thru the connections of 'likes' and celebrities to to try bring to our attention that we can do something now before 2012 or completely forget/brush it off later. It has a deadline, vision, statement, motivation, determination and a voice to try to use social networking as an experiment and make a change. It has worked in Egypt, Lybia, Iran etc..but not really. It did unstabilize the countries but at least that there is hope and change. We're living in a world of information, media and networking age at the moment and I think someone is clever and ambitious enough to make a change. I've lived in the U.S. for about 20 years now, and wrote a few letters to congress to get more help on the homelessness problem in SF but it hasn't changed much. I admire that someone like the film maker is stepping-up because I in no way can duplicate what his film talent, innate and vision is of this magnitude. Who would want to stay in Africa that long, risk their life, and come back continously to try to change a country and be a voice for the dying people there? It takes a leader and an inniative.

All in all, it's true that we should try and help ourselves first. But to risk our lives for someone else is beyond what I can explain. I would probably due that too. Just say next life, you are born in Africa, and you are that boy/girl in the video, wouldn't you wish someone out there came w/ the superpowers came to help?

This situation w/ Kony is comparable to the Killing Fields of Cambodia b/t 1974-1979. It's very similar. Basically, at the end of 1975 Cambodia's civil war, Khmer Rouge(Red rebels or communist) took over the city, towns, said it was 'YEAR ZERO,' told everyone to get out of their house, do not bring any belongings, and were all herded to farm. Married couples, single people, elderly, educated folks, kids, all were separated into various groups for farming duties. Most kids were gathered in one group where they lined up. They were told to kill their own parents. If the child didn't kill their parents, then the kid behind them will kill both the kid in front and his/her parents. What Koni and Pol Pot did were brain washing the kids by forcefully drugging them, alcohol, weed, kill anyone educated or can think. Pretty sad how a communist Maoist by himself can brain wash so many people. Another thing, even after the genocide was about to end, after the U.S. bombings, my dad ran as fast as he could during the war towards the Thailand borders, but someone dumped their baby on the ground because they were afraid that if they brought the child along, she would cry and it will reveal the location of the escapees to the communist rebels. My dad actually picked up the girl and risk his life to save someone else's baby. Now, she's living in Brazil with two children and is thankful.

Just my opinion. It's a great discussion forum here for ideas and perspective.
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Old 03-08-2012 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by aww_shiet
tldr
Too long didn't read. lol You're too damn lazy!
Old 03-08-2012 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by XenonKiller99
Originally Posted by aww_shiet' timestamp='1331247631' post='21491225
tldr
Too long didn't read. lol You're too damn lazy!
similar to subtitles in movies... I couldn't get passed the first 10 minutes of The Passion of the Christ
Old 03-08-2012 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chetly
Anyone who gives these crooks money is a dumbass...
i guess im a dumbass then for getting that box helping invisible children try to fulfill an idea and blanketing the night on april 20th. call me a bandwagon hipster but i feel by doing this it makes me feel good that i feel i helped out people on my way or another. i've done so as many projects i've joined like UNICEFs project providing water pumps for africa and another project where we aim to give solar powered lamps in favor of gas powered one in zambia.

katrina, haiti, tohoku you name it. i do it because that's what i think is right.

it kinda hurt a bit when people shut their eyes and close their ears to such simple ideas. a simple idea such as helping out the needy that can probably save lives if not at least hope for a better change.

i guess im a dummy for being humanitarian. but then again my belief is like a penis. i have one, im proud of it but i never whip it out and force it into everyone.
Old 03-08-2012 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by yamez
Originally Posted by chetly' timestamp='1331235277' post='21490497
Anyone who gives these crooks money is a dumbass...
i guess im a dumbass then for getting that box helping invisible children try to fulfill an idea and blanketing the night on april 20th. call me a bandwagon hipster but i feel by doing this it makes me feel good that i feel i helped out people on my way or another. i've done so as many projects i've joined like UNICEFs project providing water pumps for africa and another project where we aim to give solar powered lamps in favor of gas powered one in zambia.

katrina, haiti, tohoku you name it. i do it because that's what i think is right.

it kinda hurt a bit when people shut their eyes and close their ears to such simple ideas. a simple idea such as helping out the needy that can probably save lives if not at least hope for a better change.

i guess im a dummy for being humanitarian. but then again my belief is like a penis. i have one, im proud of it but i never whip it out and force it into everyone.
I think what he's saying is that Invisible Children doesn't let the BBB check their business practices, and all of these people are making ~90K a year. Now, I'm not going to proclaim I know a whole list of humanitarians, but the few I know, don't make half of that. The fact of the matter is that donating to get a box of stickers, doesn't actually do anything. Unless the point is to organize a rag-tag militia with the funds, ship em over and send them into the killing fields. The only way to stop the Lords Resistance Army is with more guns, bombs, etc. Buying a sticker box doesn't do a thing, except help pay nearly $270K in salaries for these humanitarians, and I don't know about you but after a decade of bloodshed, I'm tired of watching my brothers die for other peoples causes. Unfortunately we've been suckered into about 3 conflicts in the last year, that was in everybodies strategic interests except our own.

Don't get me wrong, this is a huge problem. This is a sick problem. As I said, it made me cry. I don't understand what the hell goes through the minds of men to do this kind of stuff. But "awareness" won't stop a psychotic madman, half a world away. It's not like he's been flying under the ICC, UN, or even US Gov'ts radar. Even if you eliminated this guy, it's not like there isn't hundreds+ of more psychotic warlords running around Africa; let's not get into the rest of the world.

If you actually want to solve the problem, or be apart of the solution, e-mail Invisible Children, ask how you can book a plane ticket, and if they have an armory somewhere in Uganda so you can put your life on the line. Unfortunately, you're more or less pissing your money in the wind. Don't get me wrong, it's an honorable thing to do 100%, it's just the reality that your or anyones money (through this cause anyways) actually solving this crisis, is slim to none.

I totally respect you for putting your money where your mouth is; unfortunately in my eyes, in this instance, it just doesn't seem like it'd really go to the appropriate cause when it's all said and done. But hey, more power to you
Old 03-08-2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by yamez
Originally Posted by chetly' timestamp='1331235277' post='21490497
Anyone who gives these crooks money is a dumbass...
i guess im a dumbass then for getting that box helping invisible children try to fulfill an idea and blanketing the night on april 20th. call me a bandwagon hipster but i feel by doing this it makes me feel good that i feel i helped out people on my way or another. i've done so as many projects i've joined like UNICEFs project providing water pumps for africa and another project where we aim to give solar powered lamps in favor of gas powered one in zambia.

katrina, haiti, tohoku you name it. i do it because that's what i think is right.

it kinda hurt a bit when people shut their eyes and close their ears to such simple ideas. a simple idea such as helping out the needy that can probably save lives if not at least hope for a better change.

i guess im a dummy for being humanitarian. but then again my belief is like a penis. i have one, im proud of it but i never whip it out and force it into everyone.

I say that because out of how ever much money you spent, the cause is only getting $0.31 of every dollor you spent. Sorry, but if I'm donating any kind of money, then 100% of said money better be going to the cause or they aren't getting one f@#king cent.



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