S2KN05

More free energy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk0HfXhU9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckNHr74C_9c

S2KN05

Sums up what have been happening with the suppression of free energy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpBG...612FBC185D44D8

ahrmike

Sorry. No such thing as free energy. Give me one working model (not some shitty faked youtube clip) and I will disprove it.

S2KN05

Like I said before. I'm not here to debate the topic. I know as much as you do after watching all the movies. If you haven't watched everything, please go back and watch them. I'm simple here asking what if there is a possibility that there are free energy? What if everything around us in some form is energy? When you look at a tree, the branches move through the air, what you do think moved it? The wind right? We can't see the wind but it moves. What if that is true for energy around us? Like Dragon Z style

ahrmike

Now you're talking like an uneducated person who's just thinking wishfully. Wind energy does come from something - either pressure changes due to heat differences (caused by the SUN - a nuclear energy source) or the result of the earth turning underneath the atmosphere itself. A perpetual motion machine is flawed in its very IDEA that you can start something moving and have it continue moving on its own forever. I've watched three or so of the first few clips you posted and the idea is so flawed i couldn't continue watching any more. Give me ONE equation or one explanation on why any of those "inventions" work. It doesnt.

1) Water pump generating light while continually turning - assuming this was not a hoax, its possible it ran; this would be because of the rotational inertia that was originally stored in all the rotating elements (his words, not mine "I have this 18" flywheel..." or something along those lines). It would slow down and eventually turn off losing energy as light and as friction and inefficiencies within the system. This is akin to me getting a skateboard tire with good bearings, spinning it, and saying "look! It spins! I've created a perpetual motion machine!!!!!11!111". Eventually that machine would stop if its not getting any exterior power. Why doesn't he continue letting the machine run? hmm...

2) australian guy talking about "free pawah" - sure, I can transform 1W to 1MW...if I wait long enough and charge up my system long enough.. All he has is an electric motor spinning a flywheel until it gains momentum, which then is geared up/down/something to another motor in reverse which generates power. I can guarantee you that he is actually losing ENERGY if you do an entire energy balance from what he used to spin the system to what he got out of the system.

Take a few physics/engineering courses if you're really interested in the subect. A good course would be thermodynamics - entropy is a really good subject. If you can understand entropy you'll see why none of these will ever work.

I don't doubt there are better methods of getting power from the sources we already have such as solar, nuclear (fusion anyone?), wind, geothermal, biomass, etc - I just don't want you to believe there are ways to get something out of nothing.. You should be more interested in the up and coming energy subjects than these "inventors".

S2KN05

^Thanks for calling me crazy even though you don't know me . Again. I'm not here to debate anything with you or anyone. I'm here to show information on a topic. And if you don't care about it, there's no one keeping you in this thread. When they say free energy, it means that once paid for, the device works without paying anything more.

S2KN05

History showed this type of system being used in Ancient Egypt of course with different methods. This knowledge was either lost or suppressed. Could you imagine if the all money we send to charity could be used to make systems just like this instead of buying rice and grain to feed people? There is a saying; give a man a fish, it will feed him for a day, but teach him how to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCL68ETB_nM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0

S2KN05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JhC8R-LQfo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYFM7J_TpTU

S2KN05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZj6l...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwGUTxOGik0

ahrmike

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as such an asshole, but I just don't want someone (you included) to drop money on a system that has no real possibility of working. When you say "once paid for, free" - there are PV panels, wind farms, geothermal heat sink/sources that DO run "for free, minus maintenance" after the initial purchase - but it doesn't run "on free energy" - theres always a source of energy and an energy sink (meaning, wasted energy).

I just felt I should throw in my 2 cents since you started the thread to "give knowledge" on energy. In my definition "free energy" and "alternative/renewable energy" is very different, and the few videos I watched claim "free energy" and will not work.