dagle

I'm not arguing in the defense of the person who ran away in the story posted by the OP, I'm simply saying that it's not an irrational thought. That's my point of view on it, for those out there who've driven or cruised with me before know that I'm not wreckless by any means.

And Vu I meant in the legal term of manslaughter , I guess the correct term would have been "murder and manslaughter"
Wiki- "Manslaughter is a legal super term for the killing of a human being, in a manner considered by law as less culpable than murder.
The law generally differentiates between levels of criminal culpability based on the mens rea, or state of mind. This is particularly true within the law of homicide, where murder requires either the intent to kill

Voodoo_S2K

Out of all of that, you are still stuck on the notion that "I'm not sticking around to find out" mentality. You still don't get that by driving away, you now made the situation even worse for yourself. It's not an accident now, it's homicide.

How about a little role reversal. What if you were on the side of the road bleeding out and ended up dying and the person that hit you could have saved your life if they would have just stopped and helped.

dagle

I would understand what they were thinking, so be it. I'm honestly not one to expect more from others than they'd expect from myself. And I'm definitely not one to be afraid of death etc. etc.

Voodoo_S2K

[QUOTE=dagle,Apr 22 2009, 04:57 PM] And Vu I meant in the legal term of manslaughter , I guess the correct term would have been "murder and manslaughter"
Wiki- "Manslaughter is a legal super term for the killing of a human being, in a manner considered by law as less culpable than murder.
The law generally differentiates between levels of criminal culpability based on the mens rea, or state of mind. This is particularly true within the law of homicide, where murder requires either the intent to kill

Voodoo_S2K

By all means, I hope you wouldn't expect anyone to stop and help you if you aren't willing to do the same.

Not sure what being afraid of death or not has to do with this, and somehow, I don't think that is the case.

jasonw

You would leave it to chance that you get convicted for a hit and run...

You would leave it to chance that the victim dies since you didn't help them...


Even if you have no morals, your strategy doesn't even have a good risk versus reward proposition...

CalBear07

You can frame it however you want if that's what makes you feel better about yourself. Okay, so you think it is wrong to leave the scene, and you would feel bad doing it. But you would do it anyway. How is that any better?

If I told you that I steal stuff for a living, but that I feel really guilty about doing it and know that it is wrong, does that make me any less of a thief, or any less immoral?

dagle

really? I'd think the odds of getting caught are like 99:1? Or at least thats what it appears to be to me.

the hypothetical chance of the victim living is almost unreal, but i'd stop if I thought there was a chance they lived. doubtful in most situations where there'd be impact due to short braking distance.

Risk vs. reward seems pretty good to me, remember that the media only covers what they think would get good ratings. murder, hit and runs and all that happen everyday.

dagle

Calbears- it has nothing to do with feeling better about myself etc. etc.

it's solely about weighing "being right" versus freedom. im not saying there's a right answer and it's definite wrong to hit someone but if it happened already what can you possibly do for the person you hit?

na3j nitsuj

Call 911 and give some assistance. IF you are at fault then at least have your insurance pay for his hospital bill and all...