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Old 01-14-2012, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by eklipz98
Originally Posted by trustafox' timestamp='1326502882' post='21315511
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My car felt much better when I switched from Mobil 1 to Castrol Edge (both fresh changes).

I've read that some people don't think it's possible to feel a difference, but it definitely felt better to me. And it wasn't a placebo
To avoid a placebo effect, you'd need to not know which oil was which and evaluate while "blind" to the type of oil. Otherwise, you are making yourself vulnerable to the placebo.
I thinks thats the same with just adding a "performance air filter". yeah it may pull a bit more air in, but mostly at high revs and give a small increase in horses that would not be noticed in real terms. Its more likely to extra induction noise that make people think its a lot faster now!
I bet even 10 hp extra wouldn't be noticed.
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To be the devil's advocate, I wonder if 10 less HP would be noticed?
Or, would ten less horsepower be noticed, if you put on a HP-losing part, but told the owner it was gaining ten HP.
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I think an everyday steady driver wouldn't. A regular hard driver or track driver may just feel it. But 10 hp plus or minus would only chnage 0-60 by about 0.1-0.2 sec I'd say. Could you feel that amount of difference when put your foot down? Maybe a good track driver could who knows the car and circuit well.
Old 01-14-2012, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by trustafox
Originally Posted by eklipz98' timestamp='1326511222' post='21315776
[quote name='trustafox' timestamp='1326502882' post='21315511']
[quote name='eklipz98' timestamp='1322195187' post='21184630']
[quote name='HarryD' timestamp='1322177722' post='21184304']
My car felt much better when I switched from Mobil 1 to Castrol Edge (both fresh changes).

I've read that some people don't think it's possible to feel a difference, but it definitely felt better to me. And it wasn't a placebo
To avoid a placebo effect, you'd need to not know which oil was which and evaluate while "blind" to the type of oil. Otherwise, you are making yourself vulnerable to the placebo.
I thinks thats the same with just adding a "performance air filter". yeah it may pull a bit more air in, but mostly at high revs and give a small increase in horses that would not be noticed in real terms. Its more likely to extra induction noise that make people think its a lot faster now!
I bet even 10 hp extra wouldn't be noticed.
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To be the devil's advocate, I wonder if 10 less HP would be noticed?
Or, would ten less horsepower be noticed, if you put on a HP-losing part, but told the owner it was gaining ten HP.
[/quote]

I think an everyday steady driver wouldn't. A regular hard driver or track driver may just feel it. But 10 hp plus or minus would only chnage 0-60 by about 0.1-0.2 sec I'd say. Could you feel that amount of difference when put your foot down? Maybe a good track driver could who knows the car and circuit well.
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I've probably never done a 0-60 pull in my car.
Old 01-14-2012, 10:21 AM
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Oh man... lol this debate comes up every year...

The "felt" difference is probably the audible difference from fresh oil going in. I mean judging from what comes out and what's going in, I don't think anyone would disagree that fresh oil is slicker at the very least. Will you gain power from switching oil? no... Will conventional, blends, or synthetic from a reputable oil-make damage your car? no.. Are there better oils suited for the needs of our cars? yes. Worth the premium? depends on what you use your car for.

I have run mobil, royal purple, valvoline, castrol, gas station quaker brand, etc. In my limited experience none of them were better than others. I currently run valvoline synthetic because I always find coupons/rebates that stack to make it under 5$ for an oil change (5qt oil + filter).
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Originally Posted by dagle
Oh man... lol this debate comes up every year...

The "felt" difference is probably the audible difference from fresh oil going in. I mean judging from what comes out and what's going in, I don't think anyone would disagree that fresh oil is slicker at the very least. Will you gain power from switching oil? no... Will conventional, blends, or synthetic from a reputable oil-make damage your car? no.. Are there better oils suited for the needs of our cars? yes. Worth the premium? depends on what you use your car for.

I have run mobil, royal purple, valvoline, castrol, gas station quaker brand, etc. In my limited experience none of them were better than others. I currently run valvoline synthetic because I always find coupons/rebates that stack to make it under 5$ for an oil change (5qt oil + filter).
oh man, I wasn't on about oil. so sort of went off topic. It was about feeling a difference with air filter.
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I didn't even read your post until now lmao. I was replying to the original post string, not your little air filter dealie
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Originally Posted by dagle
I didn't even read your post until now lmao. I was replying to the original post string, not your little air filter dealie
I did wonder lol. As I said it went off topic. But hey ho
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