o_O S2000 | Mk I — Stage II
12-22-2015, 01:44 PM
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Also, is this going to replace your stock cluster? I want to say yes, since you have a tach on it. And if no, then why 3 Tachs?!
If yes, it will replace your stock cluster, then you'd probably want pertinent information like a Speedo and Fuel level gauge.
If yes, it will replace your stock cluster, then you'd probably want pertinent information like a Speedo and Fuel level gauge.
12-22-2015, 05:55 PM
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I swear it isn't. I wish I was creative enough to have though of it. Most of his arguments are decent, the remaining part absolutely hilarious.
12-22-2015, 06:15 PM
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Tire pressures are extremely important for track guys. I'd love to know my highest tire pressure for each tire during a session. By the time I do my cool down laps (on track and in the paddock), my pressures have gone down by the time I can check them.
12-22-2015, 06:46 PM
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In the end I'm not sure the hassle of dealing with TPMS logging would be worth the hassle and cost of requiring sensors on each set of wheels and all that. It's more just the curiosity of what the tires are actually doing rather than just guessing. All of the inexpensive systems have a really slow update frequency and large margin of error. Would definitely be cool to see what the actual pressures are out on track compared to the drop after coming in. Probably best to just do some quick pressure checks in the hot pits and see how the measurements compare.
12-22-2015, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by radiantm3' timestamp='1450840506' post='23834873
Tire pressures are extremely important for track guys. I'd love to know my highest tire pressure for each tire during a session. By the time I do my cool down laps (on track and in the paddock), my pressures have gone down by the time I can check them.
In the end I'm not sure the hassle of dealing with TPMS logging would be worth the hassle and cost of requiring sensors on each set of wheels and all that. It's more just the curiosity of what the tires are actually doing rather than just guessing. All of the inexpensive systems have a really slow update frequency and large margin of error. Would definitely be cool to see what the actual pressures are out on track compared to the drop after coming in. Probably best to just do some quick pressure checks in the hot pits and see how the measurements compare.
12-23-2015, 07:13 AM
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Like I said, tire pressure in real time, IMO, is just waste of space. It's fine if you don't agree, but it's just my opinion. Are you going to constantly be looking down at your cluster to see when pressure peaks? and then in a 20 min session, the time spent NOT looking at tire pressure would far outlast the time spent caring about it, so then it becomes a giant waste of space.
IMO, gauges are for far more important things, like engine health and even lap times, like you had on your previous mock up. Things that you actually need to know at that very second.
Why not just have the Motec system log the tire pressures behind the scenes so you can look at them on a laptop after each session and adjust for the next time out?
It's all just constructive criticism. I don’t know why you got so defensive towards my responses.
IMO, gauges are for far more important things, like engine health and even lap times, like you had on your previous mock up. Things that you actually need to know at that very second.
Why not just have the Motec system log the tire pressures behind the scenes so you can look at them on a laptop after each session and adjust for the next time out?
It's all just constructive criticism. I don’t know why you got so defensive towards my responses.
12-23-2015, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg' timestamp='1450199776' post='23828593
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Exactly what I think too. That's part of the reason why I like this build thread so much. He actually takes the time to focus in on the small things that are often overlooked. Furthermore, he started out working on the "driver mod" before jumping in with any "part mod".
It makes me cringe when I see people, sometimes before the delivery of a car itself, already buying parts to drastically change the characteristics of the car. I am a firm believer in spending a significant amount of time on the driver mod before anything. Chances are most people won't be able to reach the razor edge of their car's top performance level. Even if they do it's unlikely that they'll be able to stay on that edge for any consistent amount of time. So why spend thousands of dollars on suspension tuning, or adding gobs of power when they can't even properly exploit what's there from the factory?
Exactly what I think too. That's part of the reason why I like this build thread so much. He actually takes the time to focus in on the small things that are often overlooked. Furthermore, he started out working on the "driver mod" before jumping in with any "part mod".
It makes me cringe when I see people, sometimes before the delivery of a car itself, already buying parts to drastically change the characteristics of the car. I am a firm believer in spending a significant amount of time on the driver mod before anything. Chances are most people won't be able to reach the razor edge of their car's top performance level. Even if they do it's unlikely that they'll be able to stay on that edge for any consistent amount of time. So why spend thousands of dollars on suspension tuning, or adding gobs of power when they can't even properly exploit what's there from the factory?
Case in point, my '06 oem suspension had a ton of body roll and was very soft for my liking. It came with a soft suspension not to please the engineers, but to please the sunday drivers who will putz with the top down to the grocery store. The car was built with compromises being a street car. I installed some coilovers before too much seat time and I don't regret it. I do think it's good to get a good "feel" for the car before going crazy however, although everyone has their own threshold for what they think is enough. Anyway, I won't ramble on, but it's a tomayto vs tomahto sort of thing, imo.
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Apologies - I should have been more specific with my post. My comments were in relation to new (brand new, or new to the owner) cars. Yes, I agree that if you've had the same car previously that it makes sense that you have an understanding of the car already. Like you said, Andrew, learning the car in its stock form is rewarding. I don't understand people that skip this step with a new/new to them car.