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11-20-2015, 05:31 PM
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Endless ME20 brake pads
I picked up a set of Endless ME20 brake pads (listed as CC40 in Japan) which is a popular competition pad for various types of racing and is popular among GT-R, E90 M3, and other common track car owners. For whatever reason Endless pads aren't readily available in the U.S. (particularly the competition pads) so I ordered these direct from Japan at a much better cost than I was able to get from any of the distributors. I go through front pads at about twice the rate of rear pads so I ordered two front sets and a single rear set.
Looking forward to testing these out. I have nearly finished off my current set of front Winmax W5s so I will be swapping to the ME20s after that. I absolutely loved the W5s at Sonoma with the Spoon calipers, so it will be interesting to see how I like these. I have learned that I definitely prefer pads with high friction coefficients. According to the manufacture data the ME20 sits in between the Club Racer and W5 in terms of friction coefficient, but it really is just a matter of trying each pad out. Cost wise these pads are normally significantly more expensive than the Club Racer and W5 which are similarly priced, but getting the direct from Japan as part of a larger order is a good way to bring the cost down to basically the same cost as the Project µ or Winmax pads. These pads have a very similar backing plate design to the W5s but the pad surface have fairly large chamfered edges.
I picked up a set of Endless ME20 brake pads (listed as CC40 in Japan) which is a popular competition pad for various types of racing and is popular among GT-R, E90 M3, and other common track car owners. For whatever reason Endless pads aren't readily available in the U.S. (particularly the competition pads) so I ordered these direct from Japan at a much better cost than I was able to get from any of the distributors. I go through front pads at about twice the rate of rear pads so I ordered two front sets and a single rear set.
Looking forward to testing these out. I have nearly finished off my current set of front Winmax W5s so I will be swapping to the ME20s after that. I absolutely loved the W5s at Sonoma with the Spoon calipers, so it will be interesting to see how I like these. I have learned that I definitely prefer pads with high friction coefficients. According to the manufacture data the ME20 sits in between the Club Racer and W5 in terms of friction coefficient, but it really is just a matter of trying each pad out. Cost wise these pads are normally significantly more expensive than the Club Racer and W5 which are similarly priced, but getting the direct from Japan as part of a larger order is a good way to bring the cost down to basically the same cost as the Project µ or Winmax pads. These pads have a very similar backing plate design to the W5s but the pad surface have fairly large chamfered edges.
I am very curious of your thoughts on the comparison between W5s and ME20s as W5s are on my next trial list. Keep up the good works!
11-25-2015, 09:26 PM
#2313
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I even have a few other ideas, maybe doing a flange with a simple valve in it so when the valve is closed the air is directed up and out above the top of the fender liner. I honestly think it would be possible to make some nice additional front end downforce if you carefully directed that brake duct air up the fender liner and then out some louvres on the top of the fender or exit vents or something. Would be cool to try out for a full on track car. Nothing really wrong with just dumping it all into the rotor though and putting it to work to cool the brakes though.
11-27-2015, 10:14 AM
#2315
Girodisc rotors reduce brake fade much more than I thought. With brake ducts you are going to block them off unless you are doing aggressive or track. I don't think ducts are that necessary unless it's on the track doing a 20+ minute session in 90 degree weather. What type of driving do you do most of the time? Do you feel brake fade now?
11-28-2015, 09:48 PM
#2316
Girodisc rotors reduce brake fade much more than I thought. With brake ducts you are going to block them off unless you are doing aggressive or track. I don't think ducts are that necessary unless it's on the track doing a 20+ minute session in 90 degree weather. What type of driving do you do most of the time? Do you feel brake fade now?
I've done 5 track days on oem blanks in the s2k with ducting and my rotors have very little wear so far. So even if fade isn't an issue, I think it's totally worth it for prolonging the life of consumables.
11-28-2015, 11:30 PM
#2317
Thread Starter
Girodisc rotors reduce brake fade much more than I thought. With brake ducts you are going to block them off unless you are doing aggressive or track. I don't think ducts are that necessary unless it's on the track doing a 20+ minute session in 90 degree weather. What type of driving do you do most of the time? Do you feel brake fade now?
Originally Posted by radiantm3' timestamp='1448779701' post='23814816
Girodisc rotors reduce brake fade much more than I thought. With brake ducts you are going to block them off unless you are doing aggressive or track. I don't think ducts are that necessary unless it's on the track doing a 20+ minute session in 90 degree weather. What type of driving do you do most of the time? Do you feel brake fade now?
I've done 5 track days on oem blanks in the s2k with ducting and my rotors have very little wear so far. So even if fade isn't an issue, I think it's totally worth it for prolonging the life of consumables.
11-30-2015, 09:35 PM
#2318
Thread Starter
I am currently using ME20 at the moment and love every bit of it. Very Streetable and superior on track (Current Mileage is approx 10,000km = aprox 7,000 miles with quite minimal wear). Mine makes a lot of noise because my URGE calipers dont have shims but yours should be quite minimal as spoon calipers are OEM shape.
I am very curious of your thoughts on the comparison between W5s and ME20s as W5s are on my next trial list. Keep up the good works!
I am very curious of your thoughts on the comparison between W5s and ME20s as W5s are on my next trial list. Keep up the good works!
