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Old 04-08-2015 | 06:28 AM
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Old 04-08-2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewhake
It is possible to go much faster than most people realize on a staggered setup, it's just harder to be consistent I think so it is very good training.
I meant to ask you this before, but forgot to.. Why do you think a staggered setup is harder to be consistent with than a square setup?
Old 04-08-2015 | 12:00 PM
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It is possible to go much faster than most people realize on a staggered setup, it's just harder to be consistent I think so it is very good training.
I meant to ask you this before, but forgot to.. Why do you think a staggered setup is harder to be consistent with than a square setup?
Less stability under braking and the front tires tend to go off before the rears. I think it is probably possible to get more flying laps in at a consistent pace than on a staggered setup before you start to lose the tires.
Old 04-08-2015 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewhake
Less stability under braking and the front tires tend to go off before the rears. I think it is probably possible to get more flying laps in at a consistent pace than on a staggered setup before you start to lose the tires.
I've wondered about stability since the square setup shifts braking bias to the front, but the larger front tire probably makes up for the change in brake bias. I had some problems with the front brakes at times, and locking up the 225 tires can be too easy and can make modulation tricky. Switching to a staggered pad setup with more front bite is necessary to keep the rears from locking up, but it shifts the braking bias to the front, which I'd think would lead to a lighter rear end. I tried staggered pads on staggered tires for one event and found there was far too much nose dive.

I'll have to see how a square setup compares, hopefully a larger front tire will allow for harder/later braking and easier/better modulation. Surprisingly I didn't notice with Z2's that the front fell off terribly relative to the rears. The Z2's generally felt a little greasy after a half dozen laps on warm days.
Old 04-08-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by evoq007
Have you revamped your maintenance sheet with all the weight loss stuff? I would like to see the detail in it.
Yeah here is the current estimated weight:



Total estimated savings of 162lbs and curb weight of 2692lbs. This is estimating from the 2855lb curb weight for an AP2 which is with a full tank of gas. When I put on the Weds I will likely have the car corner balanced so we can see what the actual measured weight is now. Main weight savings left will be in hardtop and soft top removal, header, and from there it will all be small things here and there. If I can get the car to a 2650lb curb weight I will be pretty happy with that especially without really gutting anything.

There are so many little advantages to removing weight from the car. It effectively improves everything and opens up setup options a bit, like being able to get away with slightly less stiff springs at the same ride height and little things like that.
Old 04-08-2015 | 04:17 PM
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Great video.
Is it just me, or does anyone notice this car just rocketing through the rev range?
Lighter flywheel/clutch combo? Smoothness of the Flashpro tune? (Assuming you have one)

I drive a pretty much stock 04 AP2 and it sounds like there is a definite difference with your car.
Old 04-08-2015 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by matt96ex
Great video.
Is it just me, or does anyone notice this car just rocketing through the rev range?
Lighter flywheel/clutch combo? Smoothness of the Flashpro tune? (Assuming you have one)

I drive a pretty much stock 04 AP2 and it sounds like there is a definite difference with your car.
Ah! That reminds me I need to do a comparison video between the car with AP2 flywheel and AP1 flywheel. I will do that tonight. There is a definite difference with the AP1 flywheel. By far the best chance is the engine response when rematching down. You really can get away with a much quicker blip.

I think it's a combination of everything really. FlashPro tune definitely plays a role. there is noticeably more power throughout the rev range.
Old 04-08-2015 | 04:22 PM
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I still feel like that video doesn't do the best job of showing how it sounds from inside the car. I had my backpack in the passenger footwell with might have been muffling the sound from my sound recorder a bit. I might try a few other methods and maybe do a top down video as well.
Old 04-08-2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewhake
Ah! That reminds me I need to do a comparison video between the car with AP2 flywheel and AP1 flywheel. I will do that tonight. There is a definite difference with the AP1 flywheel. By far the best chance is the engine response when rematching down. You really can get away with a much quicker blip.

I think it's a combination of everything really. FlashPro tune definitely plays a role. there is noticeably more power throughout the rev range.
Ooo! Ill be waiting for that.
Old 04-09-2015 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah we get it Amuse Euro-S. You are made of titanium...



Yes officer that is the stock exhaust. Hey what are you doing don't look at the piping.


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