Auto Racing Discussion F1, IRL, Champ Car, Nascar, WRC, BTCC, etc. Discuss recent races, results.

Sebastien Bourdais to F1 in '08?

Thread Tools
 
Old 08-07-2007, 12:43 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
s2ksimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto & FnF ssauga
Posts: 12,843
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

oh yeh, forgot about da matta from Champ Car who couldn't cut it either.

i think JV was successful because he came with the "European Racing" background and mentality which the Europeans did not alienate him with. But as soon as he started to shoot his mouth off publically, see ya later career.

drivers coming from the U.S. dont' stand a chance anymore in F1 as F1 has become a "European snobbery form of racing" which really plays into the hands of European born , bred and racing and ensures no one is outspoken in nature. F1 Robots is what they want..
Old 08-07-2007, 12:46 PM
  #12  
Banned
 
GPMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: USSA
Posts: 10,513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Didn't Bourdais have a stab at F1 already? I remember reading an article in R&T a few years back saying F1 left a bad taste in his mouth.
Old 08-07-2007, 12:54 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
mikegarrison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Covington WA, USA
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GPMike,Aug 7 2007, 01:46 PM
Didn't Bourdais have a stab at F1 already?
He got offered a job as a Friday test driver. I think he felt that would be a pretty big step down from being the series champion of Champ Car.
Old 08-07-2007, 01:37 PM
  #14  
Registered User

 
Triple-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: West Henrietta UPSTATE NY
Posts: 58,680
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Time will tell, I'm afraid s2ksimon will be right in the end...
Old 08-07-2007, 02:12 PM
  #15  

 
Keith's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ballwin (St. Louis)
Posts: 1,585
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=s2ksimon,Aug 7 2007, 03:43 PM] oh yeh, forgot about da matta
Old 08-07-2007, 05:16 PM
  #16  
Registered User
 
s2ksimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto & FnF ssauga
Posts: 12,843
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by GPMike,Aug 7 2007, 03:46 PM
Didn't Bourdais have a stab at F1 already? I remember reading an article in R&T a few years back saying F1 left a bad taste in his mouth.
I believe he tested for Arrows and for Renault in 2002. Flav would only give him a test driver role so he and his manager bolted to the US
Old 08-07-2007, 05:40 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
s2ksimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto & FnF ssauga
Posts: 12,843
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Keith,Aug 7 2007, 05:12 PM
European background? JV came up from mainly the CART Toyota Atlantics + CART Indycar. He did participate in F3 races in Canada, Japan and Italy in 1992. JV's advantage was having plenty of seat time before doing his first race in F1, having a good car and a good team mate (Damon Hill).

But Alex Zanardi came from F1 and Bourdais is from France (how much more European can you get?) won the F3000 champions and had a contract with Arrows until they were sold. JPM came from F3000 as well and was a test driver from Williams before going stateside.

Keith
JV was brought up in F1, in the "European mould" you can say. He had his father's shoulder's to ride on. That is what I think his advantage was. Not seat time, nor damon hill.

F1 and those in the upper echelon of F1 circles, will consider Bourdeais just like the rest of the american driver failures. He will come, and simply end up at the back of the grid. I think he is HUGE waste of time and money.

Also, I don't think he's mentally prepared for an F1 team, driver and overall politics of F1. A tussle with Tracy here and there, don't equate to anything to what he'll experience across the pond. And oh, when the press start on him, he's done. Like what happened to swerve and even JV.

I give Bourdeais, 2 maybe 3 seasons, before begging for a testing role like McNish and Salo did. Or he may rise to the Jarno Trulli, Fisichella or Weber level.

He'll become an old man, passed and gone very shortly. The F1 ship has sailed for him unfortunately.. I guess he justs wants to say "he drove an F1 car.."
Old 08-07-2007, 06:33 PM
  #18  
Banned
 
Marco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Brackley, Tochigi
Posts: 1,569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

JV missed 96 WDC by a car failure in final race, as a rookie
97 WDC
He was sucessful cause he was in the best car in 96 97

why doesnt the comminetators mention the greatness of JV as a rookie but constant mention Louise??
did louise have pole 1st race NO
did louise win 4 races rookie yr?? not sure yet
both had lead in WDC
Old 08-07-2007, 07:51 PM
  #19  
Registered User

 
ytdlite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Monterey, CA
Posts: 1,105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

maybe two seasons. theres better talent already driving in f1 at mid grid.
Old 08-07-2007, 09:24 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
mikegarrison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Covington WA, USA
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Marco,Aug 7 2007, 07:33 PM
why doesnt the comminetators mention the greatness of JV as a rookie but constant mention Louise??
FYI, this "Louise" shtick makes you seem like a 9-yr-old.


Quick Reply: Sebastien Bourdais to F1 in '08?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:33 PM.