question about charities and tsunami?
01-09-2005, 03:03 AM
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question about charities and tsunami?
i was talking to someone today about the charities for the tsunami victims and he brought up a fact (true or not i'm not quite sure but maybe someone can verify)
anyway he mentioned that the "live aid" benefit (the ethiopian one in 84 i think) which raised an incredible amount really didn't help those poor people. Bono from U2 stated that the money raised was only enough to feed those people for 3 days!!! 3 days!!!
i was shocked.
so do the charities give money to all the countries affected?
anyway he mentioned that the "live aid" benefit (the ethiopian one in 84 i think) which raised an incredible amount really didn't help those poor people. Bono from U2 stated that the money raised was only enough to feed those people for 3 days!!! 3 days!!!
i was shocked.
so do the charities give money to all the countries affected?
01-09-2005, 06:02 AM
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the redcross website said Australian Red Cross will not deduct more than 10% of any donation for an international appeal to cover its own costs. and in the oxfam ad on tv, they said that 90c for every $1 will go to the Tsunami fund.
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01-09-2005, 10:05 AM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/703958.stm
That article brefly explains the troubles that plagued ethiopia in the 80s including reluctance to assist as well as civil war and socialist policy both leading too little too late and the misplacement of funds.
You do have to be careful who you donate to that is for certain. Statements like what the red-cross have put forward are there for a reason and that is because certain charities operate with board members taking out 6 figure salaries giving little chance to the cause.
I haven't heard great detail about it it seems that little Johnny is doing the right thing by controlling the placement of funds in asia ensuring their effectiveness in reaching those truly in need.
That article brefly explains the troubles that plagued ethiopia in the 80s including reluctance to assist as well as civil war and socialist policy both leading too little too late and the misplacement of funds.
You do have to be careful who you donate to that is for certain. Statements like what the red-cross have put forward are there for a reason and that is because certain charities operate with board members taking out 6 figure salaries giving little chance to the cause.
I haven't heard great detail about it it seems that little Johnny is doing the right thing by controlling the placement of funds in asia ensuring their effectiveness in reaching those truly in need.
01-09-2005, 10:42 AM
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Charities also use professional fund raisers which cost a lot of money. So whenever there is a fund raising campaign you should ask what percentage actually gets to the field. In the US is not unusual for the end result being 50% or less.
It is usually better to donate when there is no campaign as the charity is more likely to be manning the phones themselves therefore increasing the % that gets to the field.
That explains the % disclosures mentioned above.
In reality you shouldn't expect everything to make it to the field. They may be charities but the people who work there also need to make a living. Also, transporting stuff to a disaster area is expensive.
It is usually better to donate when there is no campaign as the charity is more likely to be manning the phones themselves therefore increasing the % that gets to the field.
That explains the % disclosures mentioned above.
In reality you shouldn't expect everything to make it to the field. They may be charities but the people who work there also need to make a living. Also, transporting stuff to a disaster area is expensive.
01-09-2005, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PLES2K,Jan 10 2005, 01:02 AM
the redcross website said Australian Red Cross will not deduct more than 10% of any donation for an international appeal to cover its own costs. and in the oxfam ad on tv, they said that 90c for every $1 will go to the Tsunami fund.
01-10-2005, 09:22 PM
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So how does Unicef fund its operations?
Speaking of which, the $1 billion aid donation to Indonesia from Howard knocked my socks off when I first heard about it. The amount is mind-boggling. Didn't know we had that much money lying around to buy some friends.
Speaking of which, the $1 billion aid donation to Indonesia from Howard knocked my socks off when I first heard about it. The amount is mind-boggling. Didn't know we had that much money lying around to buy some friends.
01-10-2005, 10:09 PM
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I don't know about buying friends, but it's better than dying enemies.
The last thing any of us needs is mass starvation and disease on our doorstep.
Personally I hope that if anything positive comes out of this it will be a better level of understanding between human kind. Maybe it will put in perspective the infighting in Aceh and Sri Lanka. Probably a whimsical hope though.
The last thing any of us needs is mass starvation and disease on our doorstep.
Personally I hope that if anything positive comes out of this it will be a better level of understanding between human kind. Maybe it will put in perspective the infighting in Aceh and Sri Lanka. Probably a whimsical hope though.
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01-10-2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackie,Jan 11 2005, 04:22 PM
Speaking of which, the $1 billion aid donation to Indonesia from Howard knocked my socks off when I first heard about it. The amount is mind-boggling. Didn't know we had that much money lying around to buy some friends.
$100M per year from a population of 20M works out at about $0.0137 per person per day. If there are 7M taxpayers that works out at about $0.04 per taxpayer per day.
01-11-2005, 01:15 AM
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Yes, it is $1.8B. The full text of the PM's announcement of 5/01/2005 can be found here....
http://www.pm.gov.au/news/media_Releases/m...elease1195.html
There was a previous $800m program in place and the new grant of $1B brings the total to $1.8B
Below are bits cut'N'paste from later news articles
The Age 6/01/2005
Prime Minister John Howard overnight pledged $1 billion to help Australia's neighbour following the Boxing Day tsunami that has left up to 100,000 Indonesians dead in the Aceh province alone.
The five-year aid program is split equally between grants and long-term interest free loans to help Indonesia recover from the disaster.
The Age 7/01/2005
Australia received wide acclaim today for its historic $1 billion aid package to Indonesia, but Prime Minister John Howard promised his priority remained grief-stricken Australian families affected by the Asian tsunami.
He described the $1 billion bilateral aid package for Indonesia - made up equally of grants and long-term, interest-free loans - as a token of the compassion and concern felt by the Australian people.
http://www.pm.gov.au/news/media_Releases/m...elease1195.html
There was a previous $800m program in place and the new grant of $1B brings the total to $1.8B
Below are bits cut'N'paste from later news articles
The Age 6/01/2005
Prime Minister John Howard overnight pledged $1 billion to help Australia's neighbour following the Boxing Day tsunami that has left up to 100,000 Indonesians dead in the Aceh province alone.
The five-year aid program is split equally between grants and long-term interest free loans to help Indonesia recover from the disaster.
The Age 7/01/2005
Australia received wide acclaim today for its historic $1 billion aid package to Indonesia, but Prime Minister John Howard promised his priority remained grief-stricken Australian families affected by the Asian tsunami.
He described the $1 billion bilateral aid package for Indonesia - made up equally of grants and long-term, interest-free loans - as a token of the compassion and concern felt by the Australian people.