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02-10-2003, 04:25 PM
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02-13-2003, 06:19 PM
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We've got a 'snow flakes chance in hell'.... for the Australian governments to admit - their 'Speed Kills' scenario ain't always the causer of accidents and lift speed limits on our freeways!! 
02-13-2003, 06:43 PM
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for the Australian governments to admit - their 'Speed Kills' scenario ain't always the causer of accidents and lift speed limits on our freeways!!
Funny thing is that most deaths/accidents do not happen on the freeway. The majority of them happen in the city and that is despite the super-low limits we have here now.
Also, how does lowering the limit (or setting it) help "save lives" if majority people who die while speeding were already exceeding the speedlimit?! What difference does it make to the obout-to-die-speedster whether the limit is set at 100kph, 80kph or 30kph if he's doing 180kph? Lowering the limit will not stop him from speeding! Idiots (and I don't mean it in the nice way) ... I hope that they all get run over by a car doing the speed-limit while the driver is shaving/putting on lipstick.
Funny thing is that most deaths/accidents do not happen on the freeway. The majority of them happen in the city and that is despite the super-low limits we have here now.
Also, how does lowering the limit (or setting it) help "save lives" if majority people who die while speeding were already exceeding the speedlimit?! What difference does it make to the obout-to-die-speedster whether the limit is set at 100kph, 80kph or 30kph if he's doing 180kph? Lowering the limit will not stop him from speeding! Idiots (and I don't mean it in the nice way) ... I hope that they all get run over by a car doing the speed-limit while the driver is shaving/putting on lipstick.
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Dont mean to start another debate but reading David's post made me think of the Gun laws.
edit: not in the crazy psycho kinda way..... well ok but only a little.
I can just picture chopper read handing in a sawn off shotgun because he didnt want a fine.
Foolish idiots.
Imposing gun restrictions will not take guns from the criminals only those who chose to obey the law.
Im not even a weapon enthusiast but the principles that are being emplaced upon our society are so fundamentally flawed.
edit: not in the crazy psycho kinda way..... well ok but only a little.
I can just picture chopper read handing in a sawn off shotgun because he didnt want a fine.
Foolish idiots.Imposing gun restrictions will not take guns from the criminals only those who chose to obey the law.
Im not even a weapon enthusiast but the principles that are being emplaced upon our society are so fundamentally flawed.
02-13-2003, 09:04 PM
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I think the argument is that the less guns are a part of our culture, and the less accessible they are, the less likely you are to get shot.
People perform hold ups here with a sharpened spoon. In the US you'd get laughed at as the shop keeper and half the customers pulled out anything from a Deringer to an ICBM and blast you head off.
Having a gun doesn't stop you from getting shot. In fact it can seriously increase your chances due to accidents (I was cleaning it and it went off), family abuse (I was gunna slap her but then I saw my gun), or escalation (I pulled a gun on him, he pulled a gun on me, so I shot him).
You really don't need to play hypotheticals to assess the gun debate when our US bretheren have the right to bare arms in their constitution.
People perform hold ups here with a sharpened spoon. In the US you'd get laughed at as the shop keeper and half the customers pulled out anything from a Deringer to an ICBM and blast you head off.
Having a gun doesn't stop you from getting shot. In fact it can seriously increase your chances due to accidents (I was cleaning it and it went off), family abuse (I was gunna slap her but then I saw my gun), or escalation (I pulled a gun on him, he pulled a gun on me, so I shot him).
You really don't need to play hypotheticals to assess the gun debate when our US bretheren have the right to bare arms in their constitution.
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