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10-15-2002, 02:22 PM
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After the Dutch (whoops, should read Portugese) left East Timor the Indonesians walked in. The East Timoreses had been seeking independence ever since. When the East Timoreses voted overwhelmingly for independence pro-Indonesia militia cracked down on East Timorese resistance and democratic leaders committing many atrocities. A UN force consisting mainly of Australian troops went to East Timor and removed the militia and helped set up indepenedent East Timor. East Timor became the worlds newest Nation earlier this year and even has a seat on the UN.
10-15-2002, 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Bernie
Is this worthy of a response or should I treat it the way it deserves?
Is this worthy of a response or should I treat it the way it deserves?
10-15-2002, 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by AusS2000
After the Dutch left East Timor the Indonesians walked in. The East Timoreses had been seeking independence ever since. When the East Timoreses voted overwhelmingly for independence pro-Indonesia militia cracked down on East Timorese resistance and democratic leaders committing many atrocities. A UN force consisting mainly of Australian troops went to East Timor and removed the militia and helped set up indepenedent East Timor. East Timor became the worlds newest Nation earlier this year and even has a seat on the UN.
After the Dutch left East Timor the Indonesians walked in. The East Timoreses had been seeking independence ever since. When the East Timoreses voted overwhelmingly for independence pro-Indonesia militia cracked down on East Timorese resistance and democratic leaders committing many atrocities. A UN force consisting mainly of Australian troops went to East Timor and removed the militia and helped set up indepenedent East Timor. East Timor became the worlds newest Nation earlier this year and even has a seat on the UN.
You guys down under have a sound-of-mind leader, it seems:
"This idea that you purchase immunity from terror by saying nothing is morally bankrupt" --Howard
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10-15-2002, 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by MyBad
Bernie,
I'm sorry to say that I'm not aware of the East Timor situation. Brief me, please.
Bernie,
I'm sorry to say that I'm not aware of the East Timor situation. Brief me, please.
Don't blame you MyBad, but rather the usual insular US media
10-15-2002, 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by wdavis
Must be hard to walk without a backbone.
Must be hard to walk without a backbone.
Me thinks you have seen one too many John Wayne movies.
10-15-2002, 04:18 PM
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I dont think Ducth left Timor East just like that. Indonesia had to fight for it, they sacrifice a lot of ppl to fight and free that Island and they had never been treated bad, they were treated as good and as bad as other province and it was one of Indonesian 27 province.
10-15-2002, 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by AusS2000
I don't agree with Bernie, but I would say that IMHO he is 'wrong' rather than a 'coward'. There seems to be a very dangerous ideal coming from the US that everything is either brave or cowardly. I think we prefer to think of things as 'right' and 'wrong'.
Me thinks you have seen one too many John Wayne movies.
I don't agree with Bernie, but I would say that IMHO he is 'wrong' rather than a 'coward'. There seems to be a very dangerous ideal coming from the US that everything is either brave or cowardly. I think we prefer to think of things as 'right' and 'wrong'.
Me thinks you have seen one too many John Wayne movies.
10-15-2002, 04:40 PM
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I don't think bravery has much positive correlation with either success or intelligence. Bravery is the same "virtue" that allows the suicide bombers to do their work. I'd rather be described as "rational" than "brave". The Americans won't know what I'm talking about but remember Sir Humphrey? "That would be a very courageous decision Prime Minister".
10-15-2002, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by SteveUCI
how one deals with going about righting some wrongs is what makes one brave or a coward.
how one deals with going about righting some wrongs is what makes one brave or a coward.
I mean, all these suicide bombers are pretty brave, but they are also wrong.