best wheel size for S2k
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If Honda offered (light) 17" wheels + wider tyres and big Brembos (ie. like in that picture above), then I'd take that as an option. I don't think I would want 18" wheels on the S2000 as the profile of the tyres would be too low (at least too low for what I want from the car). Not sure why Honda does not offer anything like that from factory.
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I still think 18" improves the car handling if appropriate tyres are used
This is not an argument for or against, but I am curious how would bigger wheels (with appropriate tyres) improve the handling of the car (S2000 in particlucar)? I can understand how lighter wheels/ryres would do that. I can understand how grippier tyres would do that but not sure what 18" wheels would do.
I am guessing that 18" wheels would be heavier than stock rims but the sidewall would be lower so there would be less tyre-flex. Less tyre-flex is good as you can run lower pressures but then if your tyres are very low-profile then you still need to run high pressures so that you don't buckle the rims.
Just curious how 18" wheels would help?
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I still think 18" improves the car handling if appropriate tyres are used
This is not an argument for or against, but I am curious how would bigger wheels (with appropriate tyres) improve the handling of the car (S2000 in particlucar)? I can understand how lighter wheels/ryres would do that. I can understand how grippier tyres would do that but not sure what 18" wheels would do.
I am guessing that 18" wheels would be heavier than stock rims but the sidewall would be lower so there would be less tyre-flex. Less tyre-flex is good as you can run lower pressures but then if your tyres are very low-profile then you still need to run high pressures so that you don't buckle the rims.
Just curious how 18" wheels would help?
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lol I only posted the pics to show how they look basically identical to the prodrive rims in the earlier pics.
I don't think they're the lightest rim; for lightweight I think the usual ones that come to mind are Volk TE37, Spoon SW388, Desmond Regamaster Evo, SSR comp, Racing Hart CP-035, Buddy Club P1 QF etc etc.
Of course you can't really look past the Mugen MF10...
edit: After some research, I've discovered the MF10s have the weirdest offset I've ever seen...
Recommended sizing is:
F: 17x7.5 +52
R: 17x8.5 +59
I guess many of you S2000 owners would already have known this. Rays Engineering suggested sizing for Volk TE37 is slightly different though:
F: 17x7.5 +48 215/45 R17
R: 17x8.5 +50 235/40 R17
Nice fellas, they even give a recommended tyre size...
http://rayswheels.co.jp/cgi-bin/cgi/matchi...?modelName=TE37
I don't think they're the lightest rim; for lightweight I think the usual ones that come to mind are Volk TE37, Spoon SW388, Desmond Regamaster Evo, SSR comp, Racing Hart CP-035, Buddy Club P1 QF etc etc.
Of course you can't really look past the Mugen MF10...
edit: After some research, I've discovered the MF10s have the weirdest offset I've ever seen...
Recommended sizing is:
F: 17x7.5 +52
R: 17x8.5 +59
I guess many of you S2000 owners would already have known this. Rays Engineering suggested sizing for Volk TE37 is slightly different though:
F: 17x7.5 +48 215/45 R17
R: 17x8.5 +50 235/40 R17
Nice fellas, they even give a recommended tyre size...
http://rayswheels.co.jp/cgi-bin/cgi/matchi...?modelName=TE37
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With the OEM ie 16" the max size is 205-225 front and 225-245 rear before you get some rubbing. With 18" you get 225 front and 255 rear.
I don't understand that either. If 225 (front) and 245 (rear) are about as wide as you can go before some 'rubbung' on 16", then why/how could you go wider with 18"? It does not make sence to me .... unless the 255/18" (rear) are not much wider that the 225/16". I don't understand how there would be 'extra' width in the well for the 18" that wasn't there for the 16".
Unless I'm missing something - you can't fit wider tyres just because you have bigger rims .... though, wider rims will help. Though, that will not help with 'rubbing'. Anyway, so I'm guessing that the 255/18" tyres are not much wider than the 225/16" tyres. I know that the 235/18" tyres (P-Zero, S02 and S03) have 1cm thinner (not wider) contact path that the OEM S02s ... I measured them myself while having them next to each other. So going by that the 255/18" would be 1cm wider than the EOM 225s. Honda9krpm, can you get a ruler and measure the area of your 255/18" tyre that has some/any scrubbing (ie. that has been in contact with the ground)? I'm curious to know how wide the 255/18" tyres are. Also what tyres are you running?
Come on, how many times have you guys take the car on twisty road and feel the car slides around when the tyres are hot?
Mine would slide more when cold, not hot. That is unless on the track where the OEM S02s would get a bit slippery after 2 - 3 hot laps. Then they needed 1 lap to cool down and were good for another 2 flyers. Never got them 'slipery when hot' on the road though.
pps. Still not arguing for or against, but interested how these things work.
I don't understand that either. If 225 (front) and 245 (rear) are about as wide as you can go before some 'rubbung' on 16", then why/how could you go wider with 18"? It does not make sence to me .... unless the 255/18" (rear) are not much wider that the 225/16". I don't understand how there would be 'extra' width in the well for the 18" that wasn't there for the 16".
Unless I'm missing something - you can't fit wider tyres just because you have bigger rims .... though, wider rims will help. Though, that will not help with 'rubbing'. Anyway, so I'm guessing that the 255/18" tyres are not much wider than the 225/16" tyres. I know that the 235/18" tyres (P-Zero, S02 and S03) have 1cm thinner (not wider) contact path that the OEM S02s ... I measured them myself while having them next to each other. So going by that the 255/18" would be 1cm wider than the EOM 225s. Honda9krpm, can you get a ruler and measure the area of your 255/18" tyre that has some/any scrubbing (ie. that has been in contact with the ground)? I'm curious to know how wide the 255/18" tyres are. Also what tyres are you running?
Come on, how many times have you guys take the car on twisty road and feel the car slides around when the tyres are hot?
Mine would slide more when cold, not hot. That is unless on the track where the OEM S02s would get a bit slippery after 2 - 3 hot laps. Then they needed 1 lap to cool down and were good for another 2 flyers. Never got them 'slipery when hot' on the road though.
pps. Still not arguing for or against, but interested how these things work.
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You can fit wider rear because there are more options in tyres width for 18". It will be very difficult to find 255/40/16. Enven if you do find this size, you can not fit it in the OEM rear rims due to lack of offset resulting in rubbing.
Yes the OEM SO2 is wider than what's on the sidewall. YOu are absolutely correct it's 245.
As I said earlier, I wish I had the SO2. I have a set of Falken. The handling is good compare to OEM. I just can't wait to get a new set of GS-D3 or Toyo when the tyres are worn.
PS when I say hot I means SMELLY HOT (compare to warm)
You can fit wider rear because there are more options in tyres width for 18". It will be very difficult to find 255/40/16. Enven if you do find this size, you can not fit it in the OEM rear rims due to lack of offset resulting in rubbing.
Yes the OEM SO2 is wider than what's on the sidewall. YOu are absolutely correct it's 245.
As I said earlier, I wish I had the SO2. I have a set of Falken. The handling is good compare to OEM. I just can't wait to get a new set of GS-D3 or Toyo when the tyres are worn.
PS when I say hot I means SMELLY HOT (compare to warm)