Random Wednesday Night Meet
08-31-2011, 09:22 AM
#1191
Haha oh so youre saying you miss me? Thats all you had to say Roberto. Im always hungry. So educate me. Why is frys gas so bad and are there facts to back it up as far as it being cancerous in the long run? What about costco?
08-31-2011, 10:05 AM
#1194
Moderator
I believe a quick sum up is, it is cheap gas for a reason! Cheaper because the gas is lacking certain detergents mainly that are needed for engine longevity and performance. I remembered reading and article in road and track awhile back about that. Here is something I found quickly online. You drive a performance car, use top tier gas!!!
History
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) introduced the minimum gasoline detergent standard [1] in 1995 and soon after most gasoline marketers who had previously provided higher levels of detergents reduced the concentration level of detergents in commercial gasoline to meet the new standard. Whether the higher detergent levels were necessary remains disputed. The levels required are necessary to meet emissions standards but not engine longevity standards.
In 2004 BMW, General Motors, Honda, and Toyota established a proprietary standard for a class of gasoline called Top Tier Detergent Gasoline with increased levels of detergents. Volkswagen/Audi joined the consortium in 2007.
Gas brands can participate and get Top Tier listing if they meet certain standards.
[edit] Availability
In 2004 the standard was adopted by just a few gasoline distributors, Chevron,[2] QuikTrip, Kwik Trip, Conoco-Phillips, Shell, Entec Stations, and MFA Oil Company. Since then many gasoline distributors have met the proprietary standard and it can be found in numerous gas stations all over North America.[3][4] ExxonMobil, Aloha Petroleum, KwikTrip, KwikStar, Somerset Refinery Inc., Tri-Par Oil Company, Shell Canada, Chevron Canada, Sunoco Canada and Petro Canada have since received Top Tier recognition.[5] Meeting this standard allows gasoline marketers to differentiate themselves from their competition. All stations selling the brand must meet Top Tier standards before the brand is qualified.[5]
[edit] Purpose of detergents in gasoline
While General Motors' "field guru" Andrew Buczynsky says that no one has identified the exact molecule in gasoline that causes engine buildup, he says that top tier detergent gasoline will remove the deposits.[6] Without some level of detergents engine deposits form in most vehicles and this causes reduced fuel efficiency, acceleration, and power as well as increasing emissions and rough idling.
History
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) introduced the minimum gasoline detergent standard [1] in 1995 and soon after most gasoline marketers who had previously provided higher levels of detergents reduced the concentration level of detergents in commercial gasoline to meet the new standard. Whether the higher detergent levels were necessary remains disputed. The levels required are necessary to meet emissions standards but not engine longevity standards.
In 2004 BMW, General Motors, Honda, and Toyota established a proprietary standard for a class of gasoline called Top Tier Detergent Gasoline with increased levels of detergents. Volkswagen/Audi joined the consortium in 2007.
Gas brands can participate and get Top Tier listing if they meet certain standards.
[edit] Availability
In 2004 the standard was adopted by just a few gasoline distributors, Chevron,[2] QuikTrip, Kwik Trip, Conoco-Phillips, Shell, Entec Stations, and MFA Oil Company. Since then many gasoline distributors have met the proprietary standard and it can be found in numerous gas stations all over North America.[3][4] ExxonMobil, Aloha Petroleum, KwikTrip, KwikStar, Somerset Refinery Inc., Tri-Par Oil Company, Shell Canada, Chevron Canada, Sunoco Canada and Petro Canada have since received Top Tier recognition.[5] Meeting this standard allows gasoline marketers to differentiate themselves from their competition. All stations selling the brand must meet Top Tier standards before the brand is qualified.[5]
[edit] Purpose of detergents in gasoline
While General Motors' "field guru" Andrew Buczynsky says that no one has identified the exact molecule in gasoline that causes engine buildup, he says that top tier detergent gasoline will remove the deposits.[6] Without some level of detergents engine deposits form in most vehicles and this causes reduced fuel efficiency, acceleration, and power as well as increasing emissions and rough idling.
08-31-2011, 10:10 AM
#1196
Moderator
HAHA. Hopefully see you guys tonight...I could use a little white widow.
08-31-2011, 12:04 PM
#1197
Registered User
Fry's gasoline is supposed to be Shell now. You can also use your Fry's card at Shell and most Circle K gas stations if you have a Fry's fuel credit. I was always under the impression that Shell was decent fuel. 
I'll prob be there tonight.
I'll prob be there tonight.
08-31-2011, 12:25 PM
#1198
Moderator
Any west siders want to cruise over?
08-31-2011, 03:54 PM
#1199
It looks like I was just unlucky. No problems since, just had 2 in a row it seems.
