watchdogd

350hp

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/5/1...350HP-7720231/

3 years is a long time but hopefully its cool

AZH

"...expected to cost approximately $60,000…"

Ouch. I don't think they'll sell many at that price point.

s2k4life_az

I read that as well but really unsure about Hondas commitment to develop such a car. The concept seems forward moving. The price seems high but maybe okay for some. It seems like NSX technology will be tuned down for this car.

The Internet

Ouch, at that price, I'd rather have the S660. 1/3rd the power at 1/3rd the price?



Although, man, they really need some help on their styling. I read an article that showed both this concept and this S2000... and my first thought was 'why can't they make it look that good?'

berny2435

It will be wise for them to stay away from the Value sports cars price range IMO. You're not going to beat Mustang and Camaro and FRS at that game. Just like it was when it first came out. Not the fastest, not the best at everything, but fit a niche well enough to sell. It better be damn good for C7 Z51 package money though. 350hp 4 bagger with antilag turbo tech from F1 would be ideal. license plate be saying (morboost)

Manga_Spawn

Yeah but it is a very different car from the mustang camaro. I think $60k is to much unless it can really compete with porche in performance. Same with the z4 and Slk. I think for $45-55k it would fit in a niche that is very empty right now. There isn't much I. That price range for new fun sports cars. Yes mustang and camaro are in there but again very different car and market. I don't know. I feel like on any bogey my hopes up with Honda. The NSX is Mia these days and unless that thing is something really special I think that honda will also screw this up.

berny2435

We're in agreement. It shouldn't be starting at 60K, but it can't be a car that starts in the $30s either. Wow factory may not be profitable at 45K starting but a 60K type S model with all the do-dads would be dope. Merc CLA45 AMG starts at $48K but it's a different market. If it come with a 2dr in the future, it would be an option for those people with money bags, wanting to shop sport sedans and sports cars at the same time. Mustang and Camaro definitely step into the mid 40s optioned up. I couldn't believe how much you could put into a Mustang GT model. Almost made me sick.

s2k4life_az

Personally I don't think a replacement for the S will ever measure up among current S owners. The replacement might have more tech, better performance, and greater fuel efficiency but it may be an unfair comparison to make given the S was a one generation build that spanned past it's production goals. I would however be excited to have a car that mirrors the visceral acceleration and the handling agility that I enjoy on my S but with a bit more power and torque. Placing it in the 60-65K range would make the ownership experience a bit more exclusive depending on production numbers and regional availability. A price cheaper than that put it in direct competition with many other cars with similar power and tech such as BMW and Infiniti.

Manga_Spawn

The thing honda is missing is the allure if the BMW or merc badge. Let's be honest very few current S2000 owners would buy one of these when it first comes out. When the s2000 came out it was faster and cheaper than the boxster and I think that is ultimately what it will be compared against. I think starting at $60k puts it at the same price point as the Porsche which isn't a good place for Honda to be. If they can come in a bit cheaper like $50kish starting then it could be seen as a good deal and that you aren't paying porsche money for a Honda. My other worry is all the new mandates for safety that could easily ruin a car like the s200". By the. All cars have to have back up cameras and god knows what else. The s2000 came out at a perfect time where much of the market was sub par and it was able to shine. Now there is a lot more competition and Honda has been out of the game for a while. We will see.

berny2435

Did the S2000 actually shine in it's first few years of sales in the US? Just asking b/c I'm only 33 and didn't know squat about cars untill about 2005 and at that time, it just simply wasn't appealing to me bc of cost.
In 2000 it certainly wasn't cheap at around $30,000 base price and they brang over about 5,000

1999 Corvette was $38K base back then. $45K for the vert - It obviously did not compete with the vette in production numbers or popularity. sold over 18,000 in one year http://www.c5registry.com/production/p99t.htm It appears that the 2000-2008 S2000 did outsell the E46 M3 01-06 by around 20k cars. so maybe even sales within 01-06

My parents remember seeing that car and thinking that they were really cool looking back in the day. They were slightly jealous when they saw that I owned one.

The C7 is about 20K more expensive than the C5 so a $50K mrsp next gen S2000 seems in line. $10K in options is not crazy by todays standards, especially if it includes a hybrid version. Top of the line shocks are going from a Camaro SS to a Z/28 is likely a $5,000 bump alone. PSAM system on a porsche 911 is around $3,000 and whats odd is that they make you upgrade the wheels from 19s to 20s which is at minimum a $1560 hike on top of PSAM cost. so $4560 option lol! Porsche add-ons are ridiculous money. Anyone that options up a 911 with even 1/2 of the options should get their head checked.

I guess my point is, it should be a $50K car that can have lots of options put in but provides a solid choice bare bones at 50K when compared to a typicaly optioned up Mustang GT or Camaro SS.